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America’s million-doctor shortage is right around the corner
MarketWatch ^ | Apr 1, 2016 | Emma Court

Posted on 04/02/2016 6:36:53 AM PDT by george76

Primary-care shortage is growing especially acute in rural areas and in parts of some cities.

The doctor is disappearing in America.

And by most projections, it’s only going to get worse — the U.S. could lose as many as 1 million doctors by 2025, according to a Association of American Medical Colleges report.

Primary-care physicians will account for as much as one-third of that shortage, meaning the doctor you likely interact with most often is also becoming much more difficult to see.

Tasked with checkups and referring more complicated health problems to specialists, these doctors have the most consistent contact with a patient. But 65 million people live in what’s “essentially a primary-care desert,” said Phil Miller of the physician search firm Merritt Hawkins.

Without those doctors, our medical system is “putting out forest fires — just treating the patients when they get really sick,” said Dr. Richard Olds, the chief executive officer of the Caribbean medical school St. George’s University, who is attempting to use his institution’s resources to help alleviate the shortage.

Dr. Ramanathan Raju, CEO of public hospital system NYC Health + Hospitals, goes even further, saying the U.S. lacks a basic primary-care system. “I think we really killed primary care in this country,” said Raju. “It needs to be addressed yesterday.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doctor; doctors; doctorshortage; healthcare; obamacare; shortage; trumpu4doctors
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To: george76

“Fee for service” is the correct solution, always has been.

TANSTAAFL is the underlying principle.

Health “insurance” is the only product in America for which a person paying a dollar wants ten in return. If I could play the blackjack tables at Vegas with these odds I’d quit my job and fly out today.

Several mistakes our medical ancestors made decades ago. One was going to a third-party payment system in the hopes of actually being paid. Second was allowing “midlevel” practitioners into the practice.

The third-party problem isn’t going away soon, as a matter of fact, enshrined as it is in Obamacare, federalized as it were, we Americans are going to have cradle to grave care whether we like it or not and when we get older, too old to be of use (in the “complete lives” considerations of President Obeyme’s former science Czar) we’ll be told to “just take a pill.” Like it or not.

But of the other problem? In the “Free State” of Maryland - among others - Nurse practitioners can practice medicine autonomously, supervised only by other nurses, if any. There are many universities which offer “2-year BSN programs,” coast to coast. Considering the usual way is to cram a 2 year program into the more traditional 4 years, if the goals are met, same-same, poof, another nurse is produced. Then with the right connections - and/or subsidies from the benevolent and all-knowing all-powerful “state” - said 2 year nurse can now be accepted into a one year family nurse practitioner program.

does this happen? Sure. And even more so as the bureaucracy/government-created “doctor-shortage” becomes more acute.

After all, a traditionally-trained physician going to four years of undergrad, four years of medical school, a year rotating internship and three to five years of postgraduate medical residency producing a new doctor in only twelve to fifteen years is way too much to expect someone of above average intelligence and professionalism to expect to have his/her every clinical decision second-guessed by an 8th grade-level public education victim in a windowless office working for an insurer and/or state/federal medical agency. Day after day after year after year.

True story time, from a time shortly after the glorious people’s revolution of the Soviet Union, circa 1919. “Workers” from the laundry rooms of large hospitals would be given lab coats and stethescopes and told to replace the bourgeoisie physicians on the upper floors while said physicians would be sent to the basement laundry rooms (gulags or summarily executed as enemies of the state), because, comrade, in perfect marxist communist state, all workers are equal. Indeed, for many decades, physicians in USSR earned as much as cab drivers; from each according to his abilities, to each, according to his needs.

Now that the progressives (ahem, communists) have all but taken over every aspect of our economy, the gravy days of earning potential of physicians is rapidly coming to a close as the competition - three year wonders - are replacing us in droves. Like the teachers unions cranking out “educators” like so many ice cubes from a frozen intellectual tableau, each generation of public education victim replacing the former as the entire cycle serves to dumb down the educator to become a mere box checker in an education factory, the nursing factories are willing to dumb down the profession of medicine in like fashion so long as the money keeps rolling in.

The “state”, realizing the cost-savings, willingly blurring the lines between doctors, nurses or physician assistants by promulgating the my of the “equivalent” and ubiquitous “provider” plays a dangerous shell game of healthcare with the public as there is rarely anything of value underneath the shells being presented by the prestidigitation of the “managers” in HMOs and government-funded programs.

Want to see your medical future under such systems?

The VA.


21 posted on 04/02/2016 7:48:11 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

They will get care because they go to the ER when you should go to a primary care physician. It’s the rest of us who follow proper protocol and procedure that will wait for necessary care. I should have seen my doctor last fall, but knew my issue would be addressed in a needed physical-appointments were over four months out. Dumb of me not to go to urgent care, but wanted to see my regular doc as that’s what my endocrinologist said to do. I’m better now, but felt awful all through winter and perhaps caused permanent damage.


22 posted on 04/02/2016 7:50:06 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: george76
Part of the problem is that the number of doctors have not increased in years (medical school enrollments) although the population has soared.

Evidently the solution is to bring in foreign doctors.

23 posted on 04/02/2016 7:54:26 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: george76

I predicted back during the ObamaCare debates, based on observation of the British system, that it would drive a huge shortage of trained MDs; that the shortage would be filled by importing 3rd world ‘doctors’ of dubious training; that the world leading quality of the US medical system would be dragged down to 3rd world standards. Anyone looking and thinking predicted the same. We’re well on our way.


24 posted on 04/02/2016 8:01:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: All

I work for a major medical system and I can tell you its not just primary care doctors that there is a shortage of. We will be shutting down services temporarily due to a shortage of specialty physicians such as psychiatrists - something the liberals and GOPe’rs will be needing after this next election.....

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN


25 posted on 04/02/2016 8:07:19 AM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr. ( The rainbow is the new swastika....)
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To: grania
What a concept. Take care of being well on your own, and see a doctor when you're sick.

There is, of course, a large segment of the US population for which that won't work. Many are simply too dull to manage their own health effectively. Factor in laziness and lack of personal responsibility and you have about 47% (I made that % up) of the population that is incapable of managing their own health.

Given the current political nonsense in America, I don't know how to fix that issue.

26 posted on 04/02/2016 8:07:59 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: gusopol3

I recently went to a walk-in clinic for a sinus infection. No doctors anymore, I saw an NP. She told me that I had an Immune Deficiency Disorder, likely RA or COPD, and that I needed to see my Internist. Well, she scared me enough that I made the appointment. Turns out I have no immune disorders. I know I am lucky, but I miss when we could get reasonable care at a walk-in. Oh, and Dr Zeke also believes we should no longer get medical care after age 75 as we have outlived our usefulness to society. Yup, those death panels are real.


27 posted on 04/02/2016 8:14:03 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: george76

On virtually every patient that I see in the office, my computer flashes a red sign telling me that they are overweight and that I need to intervene. I offer to provide patients with healthy meals of brocoli and arugula, but after they talk to me they always head to the McDonald’s. How very frustrating.

And then the government dings me for not being active enough in the welfare of my patients. My golly, that’s even more frustrating.

The red flags by the way are government mandated. I could not turn them off even if I wanted to. That’s even more frustrating.

Let’s face it. Being a CPIT (computer-patient interface technician) is just frustrating business these days.


28 posted on 04/02/2016 8:16:36 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (but if not...)
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To: central_va
Don't worry the H-1B visas will kick in and we will steal all the third world doctors.

They are already here. Lots of them in this area.
Several years ago my GP retired ( along with 5 of my other Drs.)and I had to go out and find a GP that would accept new Medicare patients. Good luck!
Either Dr. Gupta, Patel, etc. Not implying they can't be good Drs. but comfort, language eases your mind.
Fortunately my wife's Dr. agreed to accept me.

Lesson... If you are in your 50s, get the Dr you want and stick with him/her. Get grandfathered in to his practice.

29 posted on 04/02/2016 10:11:18 AM PDT by Vinnie
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30 posted on 04/02/2016 11:13:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Right about Zeke since he basically said his own physician father should have died at 75, including gossiping about details of his medical history. I haven’t seen him on the shows much since then , although that may be just from embarrassment(I doubt he has the integrity to be embarrassed) over Obamacare; maybe one of his uncles landed one on his snout at the next family gathering.


31 posted on 04/02/2016 12:17:49 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: grania

Take it from a guy in the ER, few people seem interested in living a healthy lifestyle.


32 posted on 04/02/2016 1:32:29 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: nfldgirl
After my brief stop at Walmart last evening, I came home and shared the very same conclusion with my husband. I can't get over the numbers of people I saw who appeared practically unable to take care of themselves, yet alone children or aging parents. People who were morbidly obese, coughing, grunting, riding scooter carts, looking like they'd not had baths in days, just a lot of unhealthy, unmotivated, low-info people.

I've had the same experience at Walmart. Many of the customers there probably have diabetes and don't even know it. The complications of that disease are many, and expensive to treat. At Walmart I see the type of people you've described. At Target, on the other hand, healthier people but they're speaking Spanish with lots of little children in tow.
33 posted on 04/04/2016 9:21:25 AM PDT by Deo volente ("NAFTA, GATT, WTO, New World Order." George Putnam, among others, warned us.)
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