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Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Trump’s Bid
NY Times ^ | 04-02-2016 | JONATHAN MARTIN and NATE COHN

Posted on 04/02/2016 10:58:26 AM PDT by NRx

Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy has stunned the Republican Party. But if he survives a late revolt by his rivals and other leaders to become the party’s standard-bearer in the general election, the electoral map now coming into view is positively forbidding.

In recent head-to-head polls with one Democrat whom Mr. Trump may face in the fall, Hillary Clinton, he trails in every key state, including Florida and Ohio, despite her soaring unpopularity ratings with swing voters.

In Democratic-leaning states across the Rust Belt, which Mr. Trump has vowed to return to the Republican column for the first time in nearly 30 years, his deficit is even worse: Mrs. Clinton leads him by double digits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states, usually political afterthoughts because of their strong conservative tilt, into tight contests. In Utah, his deep unpopularity with Mormon voters suggests that a state that has gone Republican every election for a half-century could wind up in play. Republicans there pointed to a much-discussed Deseret News poll last month, showing Mrs. Clinton with a narrow lead over Mr. Trump, to argue that the state would be difficult for him.

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To: NRx

Looking forward to your ZOT. (JimRob has already said, those who will vote third party—thereby helping Hillary...are liable to get booted from FR.)


21 posted on 04/02/2016 11:08:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NRx

And the only thing any other nominee will do is compel me to vote third party.

There we cancel each other out. Hope you’re happy. There’s more like me I suspect than like you.


22 posted on 04/02/2016 11:10:50 AM PDT by Border Terrier
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To: NRx

I believe it’s the latter.


23 posted on 04/02/2016 11:11:23 AM PDT by traderrob6 (SEE)
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To: NRx
The only thing Trump might compel me to do... is vote third party.

Then go phuk yorself asshole.

24 posted on 04/02/2016 11:12:03 AM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces!)
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To: NRx

Does the Times serve Kool Aid with that fiction?


25 posted on 04/02/2016 11:12:05 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: NRx

For everyone who has championed this massive, never-ending, LEGAL, third world immigration that has brought over 40 million new people into the country who vote over 80% for the democratic party....this is the result: the END of conservatism in the USA. Demographics are destiny.


26 posted on 04/02/2016 11:12:12 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: NRx

Equally interesting is how low on the chart Hillary Clinton falls - - - lower than anyone but Donald Trump. It seems like an opportunity if we can muster a rally. Trump or Cruz hoards into the breach - together unstoppable.


27 posted on 04/02/2016 11:14:58 AM PDT by Remember Peleliu (Into The Breach)
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To: NRx

yep it was the thread about Trump being unpopular you posted.

As for this thread, well if Trump can’t get it then would you like to tell me how cruz can before the convention?

Oh and I am in FL and trust me cruz would never win this state, hell he came third, never won a county here, or VA which are two big important swing states.

Without FL then Clinton wins.

So the NY Times and you posted the Wash Post can take a flying leap with their crap

You state that you are not for Trump or cruz so who would you have wanted?


28 posted on 04/02/2016 11:15:01 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NRx

something to think about.

yes, i know it is the nY slimes.


29 posted on 04/02/2016 11:15:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper (Just say no to HRC)
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To: NRx

Well newb you might be banned soon as Jim has stated before people like you will be banned.
Don’t worry I won’t ping him and hopefully for you he doe snot see this thread.


30 posted on 04/02/2016 11:16:03 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NRx
NYTimes trying to convince GOP to run Romney/Bush again.
They are only trying to help.
31 posted on 04/02/2016 11:17:22 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: NRx
“We’re talking about somebody who has the passionate devotion of a minority and alternately scares, appalls, angers — or all of the above — a majority of the country,” said Henry Olsen, a conservative analyst. “This isn’t anything but a historic election defeat just waiting to happen.

Tis a contest between passionate truth and passionate lies. Every cycle the Republican guy is always sold as scary and appalling by the drive by media. Not every cycle does the Republican guy have passionate popular appeal that attracts people across party lines.

The Donald has two kinds of exposure. When people take the time to see what he is about vs when people are sold vile distortions about him. I am hopeful that in the general election our party can be united to the task of defeating Hilary whether or not the nominee is Trump. If it is Trump, I expect that many many eyes will be on their first debate, and a lot of people will find out that Trump is a far better person than the absurd image he was portrayed as.

32 posted on 04/02/2016 11:18:35 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: NRx

I agree. At that time all the media and “moderates” opposed Reagan. The was an extremist like the KKK. “...the specter of white sheets” according to Clinton’s cabinet. Now they say he was not really all that conservative. Reagan denied he signed a bill legalizing abortion in Cal.—only in the case of rape and incest. after FDR he was no longer a Democrat or liberal. The threat of Communism and socialism changed him. I hate it when people compare themselves to Ronald Reagan


33 posted on 04/02/2016 11:18:54 AM PDT by RightLady (God Bless the USA)
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To: NRx
Gosh, could THIS be a big part of the reason?
 photo GOP QUARTET copy_zpscc3uvsef.jpg

34 posted on 04/02/2016 11:19:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Girlene

I honestly have felt for over a year that it’s most likely that any democrat beats any republican in 2016 and 2020. If Trump is a sure loser, that would probably be the same for Cruz, Rubio, or any of them.

Just roll the dice.


35 posted on 04/02/2016 11:19:10 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: NRx

It’s good to see the NYT is worried about the Republicans not getting elected President over Hillary


36 posted on 04/02/2016 11:20:36 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: manc

I think you are misreading the guidelines. The criteria is to defeat Clinton/Sanders. If a third party run defeats them then it meets the criteria. I’m resolved to defeat Hillary; the way to best do that will become apparent by Election Day.


37 posted on 04/02/2016 11:21:12 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Grampa Dave

38 posted on 04/02/2016 11:22:21 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: NRx

I compare him to Reagan, and I love Reagan.

Those who can’t grasp the similarities don’t have the tools to address this issue.


39 posted on 04/02/2016 11:22:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: laplata

It’s way too early to speculate on this.

Yes, it’s way too early to give much credence to polls, but analysis of the Electoral College is valid...unfortunately, given the states which have voted the same in the last five election cycles, Clinton begins the fray with 247 EV’s;near impossible for anyone to overcome...

Fortunately, Cruz will not fare any better, so I can follow my heart and vote for Trump in the primary, and hope for a miracle in the general...


40 posted on 04/02/2016 11:24:27 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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