Posted on 04/06/2016 7:59:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It’s not the will to win that matters. ... It’s the will to prepare to win that matters.
— Paul “Bear” Bryant
HOUSTON -- People here at Ted Cruz’s campaign headquarters are meticulously preparing to win a contested convention, if there is one. Because Donald Trump is a low-energy fellow, Cruz will be positioned to trounce him in Cleveland, where Trump’s slide toward earned oblivion would accelerate during a second ballot.
Wisconsin has propelled Trump, a virtuoso of contempt, toward joining those he most despises: “losers.” In the 1992 general election, Ross Perot, a Trump precursor, won 21.5 percent of Wisconsin’s vote, above the 18.9 percent he won nationally. Wisconsin’s populist tradition is persistent and indiscriminate enough to encompass Robert La Follette and Joseph McCarthy. And evangelical Christians are less important in Wisconsin than in contiguous Iowa. Nevertheless, temperate Wisconsin rejected Trump, partly for the reason that one of his weakest performances so far was in the reddest state, Utah, where conservative Mormons flinched from his luridness. His act — ignorance slathered with a congealed gravy of arrogance — has become stale.
If, as seemed probable a month ago, Trump had won Wisconsin, he would have been well-positioned to win a first-ballot convention victory. Now he is up against things to which he is averse: facts. For months Cruz’s operation has been courting all convention delegates, including Trump’s. Cruz aims to make a third ballot decisive, or unnecessary...
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“As it is, the delegates can agree to settle on a candidate who represents the views of the party and combine their vote, and not hand it to a minority.”
When no candidate gets 1237, the nomination will go to what you call a minority anyway.
In your scenario, the party picks the candidate. That’s exactly what the GOPe wants to do, bypass the will of the people. Ironic that them doing this for decades is why most GOP voters prefer Trump.
George Will, conservative wizard, knew in September 1979 who the best Republican candidate for 1980 would be.
Ronald Reagan? Nah, too old.
George Bush? Getting warmer. Yeah, Bush would be good.
But is he the best? Um, no. Best would be Howard Baker.
George Will is almost as great a conservative as the esteemed Charles Krauthammer, who was still trying to help the Mondale Democrats defeat Ronald Reagan in 1984.
He also said the 1237 requirement could be changed.
And as usual, a Cruzbot has to insult in lieu of intelligent thought.
If Will isn’t a Democrat, he’s the next best thing.
No, strike that...
He’s the first best thing.
He’s a freaking mole. Always has been, always will be.
Oh there's a lot missing from that analysis. You are talking about a Republican primary, and one in which there were multiple candidates, not just two. Both things matter a great deal.
There was only one Trump in those races and he has a certain kind of appeal. But if you were going to vote for someone else there were multiple people to pick from. The not Trump vote was split. It won't be in the general.
Also, we already know that most people do not like him. His negatives are the highest of any candidate in recent history, and the only one that competes with Hillary in that department. Most people that will vote in the general have the good sense to recognize that he has almost no redeeming qualities, and that being a thoughtless outsider is not sufficient qualification to be President.
That's why polls consistently show him doing the worst against Hillary. Yes, we know those numbers won't be the same by November, that's not the point. His numbers are worse than any other Republican. That's the point. There's no reason to think that will change.
Those were caucuses and not primaries. ALso, the Colorado delegates are officially unbound until the convention. They can declare Cruz now and change at the convention etc. caucuses do often yield delegates but do not reflect the voters of the state in most cases.
Caucuses vary in terms of either getting voter based support or being purely a contest among party elite. States like Colorado, Wyoming and Nd are simply elites picking delegates. In two of the three the delegates selected are not bound but can declare support for the candidate of their choice, they may also change at any time.
Still, my absolute favorite quote in this thought piece: "His act — ignorance slathered with a congealed gravy of arrogance — has become stale."
Just damn. It flows beautifully.
Because they are all minorities, of course.
"In your scenario, the party picks the candidate. That’s exactly what the GOPe wants to do, bypass the will of the people. Ironic that them doing this for decades is why most GOP voters prefer Trump."
The party leaders in Washington, what most people mean by "GOPe", will not pick the candidate. The delegates from every state and district all over America will pick the candidate. These people are not the GOPe. They are the delegates sent there to support their candidates.
The party has to end up with a nominee or else they just cede the election to the Democrats. If ideas matter, if politics matter, then requiring a majority of delegates is the only way to do it.
Yeah, I’m going to save that one.
No nuance needed.
It’s math and emotion.
“Trump annihilated Cruz in FL and OH, by 1 million voters, Cruz was done that night”. Have to win those to states in the general, only Trump can now do that. There are no mystery candidates anywhere and Cruz has already been rejected.
Trump won the hearts of those 1,000,000 voters, they’re hardcore and ain’t going any where. His rally’s draw tens of thousands of people. GoPe boots him, they loose senate and house seats, and we loose a party and country.
Have you not been paying attention.
Fantasy polls of future match ups are just that fantasy, only matters when they’re head to head. Surely you know this.
And Trump reminds me of the school jock, smoking cigarettes and with a tatoo (”Bif”) who arrogantly goes around slamming guys who look like George Will against those same school lockers—that is, until someone comes along skilled in the tactical arts who, outsmarting him, kicks his royal ass and sends that humiliated big bully packing in front of a shocked class.
I think that refers to the ganging-up against him for the past two months. Has it been real? Yes. Has that happened to Cruz yet? No. Will it ever? Yes, if he is lucky. At that point it will be an unfair treatment of Cruz. And you will know how it feels.
Thanks for the good ground G-2. It will come in handy and it also confirms my suspicions.
Donald Trump is a type of Samson: Doesn’t drink, has wild hair, chases foreign women, gets really upset if the treat him unfairly, really good a slaying Philistines, and brings down the Temple of Dagon.
This is why I say that Donald Trump is a type of Samson:
Judgse 15
3 And Samson said to them, “This time I shall be blameless regarding the Philistines if I harm them!”
4 Then Samson went and caught three hundred foxes; and he took torches, turned the foxes tail to tail, and put a torch between each pair of tails.
5 When he had set the torches on fire, he let the foxes go into the standing grain of the Philistines, and burned up both the shocks and the standing grain, as well as the vineyards and olive groves.
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 252). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
For that matter, the bullying jocks tend to drink a lot (the better to bed starstruck young girls) but Trump is a teetotaler.
Hmmmmmm......interesting.
Good one — He also is a type of Cyrus, king of Persia, the only Gentile who is truly a type of Christ (and not because he is particularly Christ-like). Cyrus was not a Jew, not even close; but he championed the cause of the Jews, for reasons we cannot possibly know. I think that Trump, while the farthest thing from a Biblical, evangelical Christian, is one who can and will foster the ongoing Christian faith and practice, and who can and will champion the cause of Constitutional Americanism.
cruise is a globalist. So is hidi.
Well, I am not so sure about the Cyrus analogy. Cyrus was named in the clear text of the Bible 150 years before he was born. Unless you think Paul was referring to Donald Trump when he said, “Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.” But that may be stretching it a little. ;-)
As to why Cyrus “championed the cause of the Jews”, it is pretty simple.
Ezra 1
1 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying,
2 Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: All the kingdoms of the earth the LORD God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah.
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 457). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
So it seems that either Daniel or Ezra, or maybe both, took the Books of Isaiah and Jeremiah to King Cyrus. They showed him where he was is named as YHWH’s anointed in Isaiah 54 and how in Jeremiah 29 YHWH says that after seventy years of captivity he will put in a good word and cause the Jews to return to Jerusalem.
If you saw you name written down in a book that you knew was at least 200 years old, wouldn’t you do what it said you were to do? Especially when one of the guys showing you this had spent a night in a den of lions without being eaten?
I would not say that Cyrus was a type of Christ. Cyrus was more the type of a sensible and believing Gentile, whom we will no doubt get to meet on the Glassy Sea.
I also hope that you are not getting too attached to this world. The end of the Church Age is very close. The Great Sign in the Heavens from Revelation 12:1-2 is going to happen on September 23-24, 2017.
Time to read your Bible and pray “that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
I would dream of DoughtyOne having to look at pictures of a Cruz inaugural ball. What a great thing.
Why do these folks want Trump? It’s sad.
Let’s remember these items about the Donald:
— Trump is the candidate who backed the Obama bailout;
— Trump is the candidate who supported the Obama stimulus;
— Trump is the candidate who in 2009 viciously attacked former president George W. Bush and praised the efforts of Obama as he went on his apology tour.
— Trump is the candidate who gave money to 6 of the 8 members of the gang of eight who supported amnesty — and in 2013 met with illegal aliens in America and said they had a “just cause.”
— Trump is the candidate who has supported abortion and even partial-birth abortion for much of his life. Ten national and Iowa pro-life leaders said “VOTE FOR ANY GOP CANDIDATE EXCEPT TRUMP.”
— Trump is the candidate who was fined $1 million by the federal government for hiring illegal Polish workers. In a debate he denied that fact — but Rubio and Cruz both said it was true — and Trump was exposed as a liar.
—Trump is the candidate who has dumped two wives for mistresses;
—Trump is the candidate who has celebrated — in two of his books — that he is a serial adulterer and that he has bedded some really important women who seemingly had good marriages.
—Trump is the candidate who has said that if he is denied the nomination there will be riots. The last contested GOP convention that I recall as a young supporter of Ronald Reagan was in 1976. I don’t recall Reagan saying that if he lost there would be riots. Reagan understood that as a presidential candidate he was to remain classy and calm and not incite trouble. But then Reagan was a great man, one of America’s greatest presidents, and Donald Trump is a thug.
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