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To: Moseley
“Yes, by acts of my parents, I was a ‘citizen’ at birth, but NOT a ‘natural born’ citizen.”

There is no distinction. A child who is a citizen at birth is a natural born citizen. By definition. Any citizen at birth is a natural born citizen. Always.

Oh but there is the greatest distinction... I do not have a born in the US birth certificate... 'Natural born' US citizenship has three requirements: Two US citizen parents giving birth to their child on US soil... That is the 'natural' part that no Act of Congress or court can give or take... No one has the Constitutional authority, no not even Harvard Law schooled Cruz, to subvert the peoples Constitution. It is really pathetic to watch the so called right do the liberals work in stripping out the 'original intent' from the Constitution.

507 posted on 04/11/2016 7:51:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I am a Cruz supporter because he is by far the preferable candidate of the remaining three. He was not my first choice. With that said, Cruz is eligible due to precedent.

While attending Texas schools my entire childhood and my Constitution class at a Texas state school, the texts all stated there were THREE types of citizenship. Natural born required that the citizen be born on American soil to TWO American citizens.

My further experience with this issue was having a child on a foreign US Military base. I had to apply for my child’s “Citizen Born Abroad” blue form. Upon receipt, I inquired as to what this form meant to my child. It was explained to me that my child held all rights to US citizenship EXCEPT the child could never be POTUS.

The US government obviously still followed this policy at the time Congress granted McCain citizenship status; otherwise it would have been unnecessary to do so.

Obama was elected due to Pelosi’s certification with the added benefit of being half black; thus stopping any chance of having his lack of NBC status nullified.

Romney was nominated. Obama was still POTUS, preventing a NBC fight.

After Obama, Romney, and McCain, it has become accepted that we now have two forms of citizenship. No NBC fight will be ruled against a citizen as it would nullify the legitimacy of races and POTUS in the past.

While we may not like or agree with it, the NBC issue has been settled for the foreseeable future. To continue this argument is a waste of time and resources. Cruz is a NBC simply because his mother has a certificate of US birth.


533 posted on 04/11/2016 9:49:41 AM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“I do not have a born in the US birth certificate... “

You don’t need one.

Suppose some survivalists go up into the mountains of Idaho to live off the land. They have a boy. 30 years later — with NO birth certificate from anywhere — the boy comes down out of the mountains and decides to run for President.

Is he a US citizen?

Of course.

Does he have a birth certificate?

NOPE.

But he is still a natural born citizen.

How many people living in the frontier and wilderness in the days our Founders wrote the Constitution had birth certificates?

Very few.


‘Natural born’ US citizenship has three requirements: Two US citizen parents giving birth to their child on US soil... “

That’s only your fantasy.

Your fantasy has no connection with reality or connection to the US Constitution.

WHERE in the Constitution does it say what you claim?


” No one has the Constitutional authority, no not even Harvard Law schooled Cruz, to subvert the peoples Constitution.”

No one is subverting the Constitution.

The Constitution DOES NOT SAY what you want it to say.

You want it.

The Constitution DOES NOT SAY IT as you want it.

Frankly, it is you who are subverting the Constitution by imposing YOUR views on the Constitution.


“That is the ‘natural’ part that no Act of Congress or court can give or take... “

Where is that in the Constitution?

The Constitution explicitly gives Congress the power to define citizenship.


551 posted on 04/11/2016 10:45:01 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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