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N.J. judge hears challenges to Cruz eligibility
philly.com ^ | Maddie Hanna

Posted on 04/11/2016 12:20:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

A New Jersey administrative law judge on Monday heard two challenges to GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz's eligibility to appear on the New Jersey ballot, based upon the Texas senator's birthplace in Canada.

The judge, Jeff Masin, didn't decide the challenges to Cruz's eligibility to appear on the June 7 primary ballot, but said he would issue a decision Tuesday. The decision is expected to be reviewed by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, who is New Jersey's secretary of state.

One of the challenges was brought by three South Jersey citizens, and the other by a law professor who lives in Maryland and is running for president as a write-in candidate in New Jersey. Both parties argued that because Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a natural-born citizen, making him ineligible for the presidency.

Cruz's mother was born in Delaware, while his father was born in Cuba. The senator released his birth certificate in 2013.

Shalom Stone, a New Jersey attorney representing Cruz, argued that the citizens - Fernando Powers of Blackwood, Donna Ward of Mantua, and Bruce Stom of Winslow Township - and Prof. Victor Williams didn't have standing to challenge Cruz's candidacy. Stone also said the state didn't have authority to decide the question.

As for "natural-born citizen," Stone said the words in the U.S. Constitution "have meaning given to them by English common law" at the time of their adoption. He directed Masin to his brief for cases supporting Cruz's position.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; cruz; desperatedonald; repositorycruz; trump
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To: NKP_Vet

Very well written. ****


141 posted on 04/11/2016 2:48:27 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Was he born to a Canadian citizen father while in Canada? Why, yes he was. Now, how can you be both a natural born citizen of 2 countries?


142 posted on 04/11/2016 2:50:55 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Wizdum
Eligibility to run for President is, in fact, a State issue as it involves appearing on a ballot. This may be addressed at the State level.

Eligibility to serve as President is, in fact, a Constitutional issue as it involves whether the Constitutional requirements to serve are met. This must be addressed at the Federal level.

143 posted on 04/11/2016 2:51:57 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Kenny

Naturalized and Natural Born are not the same thing. Look it up!


145 posted on 04/11/2016 2:55:40 PM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: Rational Thought

It’s always standing that they have these cases dismissed before anyone can actually decide if he’s qualified. Same stalling tactic Obama used to hide his bc.


146 posted on 04/11/2016 2:55:47 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverCruz)
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To: eastforker

That is a question I have also. The Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 uses the term Natural Born Citizen to describe a person born in Canada to parents who are not diplomats or foreign government officials.


147 posted on 04/11/2016 2:57:44 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: usafa92

Umm, I think we are living through that scenario now with a few minor corrections of names.


148 posted on 04/11/2016 3:00:13 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: BillM

According to the stuff I read, Canadian was not a nationality until the Citizenship Act of 1946. I am not sure how they handled the people already around but I assume it is somewhere in the act if you care enough to read it.


149 posted on 04/11/2016 3:04:41 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Durbin

...until the rats challenge it in the Roberts USSC if he’s nominated.


151 posted on 04/11/2016 3:08:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: little jeremiah; All

Thanks for that post.


152 posted on 04/11/2016 3:09:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: mc5cents
Naturalized and Natural Born are not the same thing

That's my point, Cruz qualifies as a naturalized citizen thereby eliminating him as natural born. They are mutually exclusive.

153 posted on 04/11/2016 3:10:10 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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To: NKP_Vet

You say: “Cruz absolutely is not a natural born citizen. etc”

The freaking country is circling the socialist drain. Cruz is a COMMITTED conservative. And THIS is the issue you’re really worried about?

Guess you’re a Trumpster. Facts and logic no longer matter to Trumpsters like you. Not even the facts that show what a PHONY Trump is.

No real conservative would EVER have given money to Hillary, Reid, McCauliffe, etc


154 posted on 04/11/2016 3:10:35 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser

>You say: “Cruz absolutely is not a natural born citizen. etc”

>The freaking country is circling the socialist drain. Cruz is a COMMITTED conservative. And THIS is the issue you’re really worried about?

What did Ted Cruz just say? “The rules are the rules”.
If he’s not a NBC he’s out.


155 posted on 04/11/2016 3:12:11 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: jospehm20

No, Section 17 only deals with natural-born Canadian citizens who at their birth became by the laws of another country a citizen of that other country. Section 16 deals with Canadian citizens who naturalize in another country, Section 18 deals with the case of a minor child whose parent gives up the parent’s Canadian citizenship and so on.

A child who meets Section 17 requirements at least until the age of 21 years is a dual citizen.


156 posted on 04/11/2016 3:13:41 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: RedWulf

Take note, RedWulf:

Presidents who were not citizens at the time they were born:

George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
John Quincy Adams
James Madison (key author of the US Constitution)
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
William Harrison

All born citizens of Britain.

Just sayin’


157 posted on 04/11/2016 3:19:30 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: MaxistheBest

That is what I expect.

:-/


158 posted on 04/11/2016 3:19:51 PM PDT by Salamander (My Soul's On Fire...)
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To: Elpasser

I’m a Cruz supporter, but that isn’t the best argument as those guys were accounted for in the wording of the Constitution.

However, none of them were ever voted on to be a nominee! All were nominated in smokey back-room meetings!!


159 posted on 04/11/2016 3:22:39 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Elpasser

>Presidents who were not citizens at the time they were born:
>George Washington
>John Adams
>Thomas Jefferson
>John Quincy Adams
>James Madison (key author of the US Constitution)
>James Monroe
>Andrew Jackson
>William Harrison

And the guy not on that list is Alexander Hamilton because he was born in the British West Indies. And a good thing to. Hamilton while brilliant was not fundamentally an American in temperament and would have made a disastrous president, just like Ted Cruz.


160 posted on 04/11/2016 3:24:49 PM PDT by RedWulf
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