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Did Trump ‘Steal’ Missouri First Ballot Delegates from Cruz?
Conservative Review ^ | 04/12/16 | Robert Eno

Posted on 04/12/2016 6:19:43 PM PDT by writer33

Today, the Missouri Secretary of State finally released the certified results of the March 15, 2016 Republican Primary. Donald Trump received 383,631 votes (40.84 percent), and Ted Cruz received 381,666 votes (40.63 percent). The miniscule difference in vote was 1,935 out of 939,270 votes cast. Based on the state’s winner-take-all system, Trump ended up with 37 delegates to Cruz’s 15. Under Trump’s definition of ‘stealing,’ did he steal from Cruz, or were those the rules?

The result in Missouri is even more lopsided. While only 1,935 votes out of 939,270 cast separate Trump and Cruz, Trump won over 70 percent of the delegates in the state based on these results.

Trump has taken to calling the delegate process “unfair,” and is saying that the rules have allowed Cruz to “steal” second ballot delegates. Trump’s convention manager Paul Manafort, has even called what Cruz is doing, “Gestapo Tactics.” That begs the question: Is Trump getting 247 percent more delegates than Cruz in Missouri fair?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cruz; cuckservatives; missouri; trump; wearesocuck
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To: Talisker

Not participating is not the same as being denied. To suggest otherwise is being completely disingenuous, which is absolutely expected of Trump’s supporters.

It is, of course, completely idiotic, as it’s akin to saying that McDonald’s “denies” you the “right” to get food there if you go when they’re closed or you don’t go at all.


21 posted on 04/12/2016 6:36:39 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: AndyTheBear

Guffaw!


22 posted on 04/12/2016 6:38:03 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: writer33

Not possible because everything I have read since Saturday is that Cruz is to smart for that bumpkin Trump.


23 posted on 04/12/2016 6:38:04 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: JoSixChip
Good point! Its like the Soviet Union: Do you wish to vote for a Cruz delegate, another Cruz delegate, or this other Cruz delegate? No, that Trump number was skipped because he was a Trump delegate. Which Cruz delegate do you wish to vote for?

Oh wow! Amazing, the people chose just Cruz delegates. Democracy in action.

Next cycle we will save time and just have them hand in a sealed envelope with the delegate they pick. Voters are not allowed to open the envelope...its a secret ballot you know...

24 posted on 04/12/2016 6:38:06 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: flintsilver7
This is not new in Colorado and the participation rate has been relatively constant in the recent past.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. It has never been done like this here in Colorado before. I am so sick of you filthy frikking cruz liars.
25 posted on 04/12/2016 6:38:17 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: JoSixChip
And not one of those votes had any influence on the delegate selection.

The delegates elected from the precinct meetings and the district conventions would likely disagree with you...

26 posted on 04/12/2016 6:40:16 PM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pravious

“No, moron, because PEOPLE GOT TO VOTE.”

Exactly. The concept is hard to get through some thick skulls. Amazingly Mark Levin has become one of them.


27 posted on 04/12/2016 6:40:24 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: flintsilver7

I’m tired of this argument.

The guy across the street has the BBQ going. I’m going to see if he’ll swap some beer (I have new 6 pack of Amstel light) for what ever he’s cooking.


28 posted on 04/12/2016 6:41:43 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Talisker

“So what you’re really saying is that 835,000 people were disenfranchised and denied their right to vote.”

Yes! I heard that Cruz supporters DENIED them. They were at all of the over 2,900 precinct caucus locations armed with clubs and guns and beating up anyone with a “Make America Great” cap on.


29 posted on 04/12/2016 6:42:02 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: flintsilver7; JoSixChip

Ignore Joe - even when presented with the facts, he denies them, so you are wasting your breath. He swore up and down to me that the straw poll was binding, but had no answer for why Santorum won the straw poll in 2012, but Romney and Paul both got twice as many delegates...


30 posted on 04/12/2016 6:42:15 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: flintsilver7
Not participating is not the same as being denied. To suggest otherwise is being completely disingenuous, which is absolutely expected of Trump’s supporters.

I'd say a supposed 93% "voluntary" and "lazy" non-participation voting rate of almost a million registered Republicans is pretty good evidence of a "rule system" that is so onerous and incomprehensible to the average person that it amounts to functional deprivation.

If Apple had a 93% failure rate for iPhones and tried to hide behind fine print, they'd get their asses sued off for billions for fraud.

31 posted on 04/12/2016 6:43:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: JoSixChip

They removed a non-binding straw poll. Is that what you mean?

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. Stop listening to the great orange baboon that you worship and look at the facts.


32 posted on 04/12/2016 6:43:39 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: okie01
The delegates elected from the precinct meetings and the district conventions would likely disagree with you

BS, the faux caucuses this year were nothing more then a straw poll. The gopE in DC picked the Colorado delegates. You scumbags can lie about it all you want, but that is the truth.
33 posted on 04/12/2016 6:44:28 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: writer33

Isn’t Mark Levin editor-in-chief of Conservative Review?


34 posted on 04/12/2016 6:45:40 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Trump it is.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yes.


35 posted on 04/12/2016 6:45:57 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: 21twelve
Yes! I heard that Cruz supporters DENIED them. They were at all of the over 2,900 precinct caucus locations armed with clubs and guns and beating up anyone with a “Make America Great” cap on.

Nothing so crude. See my post #31.

36 posted on 04/12/2016 6:46:36 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: CA Conservative
Ignore Joe - even when presented with the facts,

Facts??? Your lies are not facts. I should know better then to try and argue with a liar.
37 posted on 04/12/2016 6:47:41 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: writer33; All

Tuesday 15 March 2016: All 52 delegates to the Republican National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders in today’s Missouri Presidential Primary.

If a candidate receives a majority of the statewide vote (more than 50%), the 52 pledged delegates are bound to that candidate.
If no candidate receives a majority of the vote:
The candidate with the most votes in each of the state’s 8 congressional district receives 5 delegates (3 Congressional District delegates and 2 at-large delegates).
The candidate with the most votes statewide receives 12 delegates (the remaining at-large and bonus delegates plus the 3 RNC delegates).
Reference:
17 March - http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/potential-missouri-recount-process-could-take-months/article_a8e255b1-7ae7-5299-8524-ba884529b711.html “On Wednesday, the Missouri Republican Party announced Trump had won 37 delegates, and Cruz won 15.”,
16 March - http://patch.com/missouri/stcharles/missouri-republican-caucus-results-donald-trump-ted-cruz-tight-race,
16 March - http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/03/missouri_recounts_possible_aft.html,
16 March - http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/politics/super-tuesday-missouri-delegates.

Primary
Source: 2016 Presidential Preference Primary Unofficial Results by Congressional Districts from the Missouri Secretary of State
Contest Trump Cruz

CD1 39,004 5 14,417 36.963% 5 13,775 35.317%
CD2 143,883 5 53,288 37.036% 5 51,772 35.982%
CD3 143,350 5 63,600 44.367% 5 56,207 39.210%
CD4 128,937 5 53,099 41.182% 53,826 41.746% 5
CD5 77,380 5 29,994 38.762% 30,543 39.471% 5
CD6 124,715 5 51,269 41.109% 5 48,568 38.943%
CD7 150,107 5 54,058 36.013% 75,307 50.169% 5
CD8 128,418 5 62,368 48.566% 5 50,369 39.223%
Statewide 935,794 12 382,093 40.831% 12 380,367 40.646%
Total
Delegates 52 37 15
CD1: Winner-take-all for Trump.
CD2: Winner-take-all for Trump.
CD3: Winner-take-all for Trump.
CD4: Winner-take-all for Cruz.
CD5: Winner-take-all for Cruz.
CD6: Winner-take-all for Trump.
CD7: Winner-take-all for Cruz.
CD8: Winner-take-all for Trump.
Statewide: Winner-take-all for Trump.

Votes cast for any candidate who dies, releases his or her delegates, withdraws, or becomes inactive prior to the primary will not be counted in the calculation.

National Convention delegates are bound on the first ballot unless that candidate dies, releases his or her delegates, withdraws, or becomes inactive.


38 posted on 04/12/2016 6:47:42 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: writer33

Dear Author of article,

If you don’t know the clear and right answer to that question, then your brain has even less substance than your dumb article.

Sincerely,

Disgusted with horrible reporting.


39 posted on 04/12/2016 6:47:44 PM PDT by PrairieLady2 (Lyin' Ted scruze Cruz...)
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To: AndyTheBear

AndyTheBear, you need to be nicer to AndyTheBear.


40 posted on 04/12/2016 6:48:16 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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