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Did Trump ‘Steal’ Missouri First Ballot Delegates from Cruz?
Conservative Review ^ | 04/12/16 | Robert Eno

Posted on 04/12/2016 6:19:43 PM PDT by writer33

Today, the Missouri Secretary of State finally released the certified results of the March 15, 2016 Republican Primary. Donald Trump received 383,631 votes (40.84 percent), and Ted Cruz received 381,666 votes (40.63 percent). The miniscule difference in vote was 1,935 out of 939,270 votes cast. Based on the state’s winner-take-all system, Trump ended up with 37 delegates to Cruz’s 15. Under Trump’s definition of ‘stealing,’ did he steal from Cruz, or were those the rules?

The result in Missouri is even more lopsided. While only 1,935 votes out of 939,270 cast separate Trump and Cruz, Trump won over 70 percent of the delegates in the state based on these results.

Trump has taken to calling the delegate process “unfair,” and is saying that the rules have allowed Cruz to “steal” second ballot delegates. Trump’s convention manager Paul Manafort, has even called what Cruz is doing, “Gestapo Tactics.” That begs the question: Is Trump getting 247 percent more delegates than Cruz in Missouri fair?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cruz; cuckservatives; missouri; trump; wearesocuck
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To: Pravious

But he didn’t get 70% of the vote. Those who voted for Cruz are disenfranchised.

Was Trump prevented from going to Colorado to take part in the Colorado delegate selection process?


41 posted on 04/12/2016 6:48:47 PM PDT by bragginright
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To: writer33

Deceitful Don cheats again, disenfranchising voters.


42 posted on 04/12/2016 6:49:20 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Apologies for the spacing from the chart.

The first column is the popular vote.

The 2nd is the Trump vote and %.

The 3rd is the Cruz vote and %.


43 posted on 04/12/2016 6:51:50 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: writer33
Cruzer logic: The yellow truck wins fairly, but by the paint on its bumper: "They should each win!" close finish photo: Silverado @ Michigan SilveradoMichiganclosefinish.jpg The yellow truck wins by the paint on its bumper by hitting an illegal nitro booster on the home stretch: "The other driver needs to learn to drive."
44 posted on 04/12/2016 6:52:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: bragginright; SharpRightTurn

you both need to examine the individual Congressional District votes from the chart above. Or if its too muddled, go here and see the breakdown for allocation of delegates.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-R

scroll down the page


45 posted on 04/12/2016 6:54:51 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Talisker

So what you’re really saying is that 835,000 people were disenfranchised and denied their right to vote. That’s NINETY THREE PERCENT.


NInety-three percent is just a few percentage points more than the number of voters who rejected Cruz in Florida and is about to reject him in New York.


46 posted on 04/12/2016 6:54:53 PM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: tennmountainman
What kind of moron equates the two?

The kind of moron that attempts to inflame the uninformed that "Coloradans didn't get a vote!!!" in order to smear Cruz and make Trump look like a victim.

47 posted on 04/12/2016 6:55:47 PM PDT by Washi (Don't blame me. I voted for the conservative.)
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To: JoSixChip
Your lies are not facts. I should know better then to try and argue with a liar.

So then educate us. If the straw poll is binding, why did Santorum get 40% of the vote and only 6 delegates and Romney get 35% and get 13 delegates in 2012?

48 posted on 04/12/2016 6:57:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: JoSixChip

yes, they did. Those 65,000 people voted on who went to the county conventions, those conventions in turn voted on who went to CD conventions as well as the state conventions. These CD, and state conventions chose the delegates.


49 posted on 04/12/2016 6:59:43 PM PDT by PA-LU Student (Ted Cruz. The one man the Republican Field is afraid to debate one on one!)
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To: writer33

So are all of Trump’s delegates in those states also Cruz operatives? Because that is what we have been talking about. In Arizona where Trump won over Cruz by 2 to 1 every delegate is a Cruz operative. That is cheating and it is immoral. If you are sent to the convention to represent voters who voted for a candidate, you damn well should be representing them. All the Cruz people here pretending like there is anything right about that are just proving that they are hypocrites.


50 posted on 04/12/2016 7:01:20 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: Talisker

I imagine that attending and VOTING at a precinct caucus near you (one for every 6 miles radius on average) was as easy as it was to go to my Washington state precinct caucus (1.5 miles away). Nothing complicated or tricky about it. No GOPe bending and folding and mutilating my ballot.

I saw a site on the Colorado election board where you type in your address and it shows you the details on when and where your precinct caucus is.

I went to mine, should them my driver’s license and gave them my precinct number and was pointed to a table. (About a dozen precincts were represented at the VFW Hall.)

Went to my district caucus after getting several email reminders to attend. Same thing - show them my ID, listen to some folks, some had obviously done this before and had fliers printed up about them and their views - then voted.

Making sure I filled in the circles with black ink was the most difficult. I’m a bit OCD.


51 posted on 04/12/2016 7:01:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: writer33
Stupidity at the website.

What does one have to do with the other?

52 posted on 04/12/2016 7:01:36 PM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: AndyTheBear

I simply don’t believe Colorado to be such an outlier that of the 65000 people that voted, not enough of them voted Trump to even be represented by one single delegate at the convention. There is something wrong with that picture.


53 posted on 04/12/2016 7:02:54 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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To: pfflier

sCruz and the scRoosters are going to be hitting a rough patch next week.


54 posted on 04/12/2016 7:04:50 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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To: PA-LU Student
yes, they did. Those 65,000 people voted on who went to the county conventions, those conventions in turn voted on who went to CD conventions as well as the state conventions. These CD, and state conventions chose the delegates.

No, they did not. The gopE chose who would be at the convention and who would be the delegates. That is why we are pissed. You punks defending what the gop to us is the most disgusting political act I have ever witnessed.
55 posted on 04/12/2016 7:07:00 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: 21twelve

Nevertheless. 93& of Republicans didn’t know they could do that.

That’s called evidence of administrative fraud.

There’s such a thing as lies of omission and cover up deniability.

800,000 people registered as Republicans but didn’t bother to vote? M’kay, whatever you say.


56 posted on 04/12/2016 7:07:20 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker; flintsilver7
"65,000 people voted in the Colorado caucus."

There are 900,000 registered Republicans in Colorado." So what you're really saying is that 835,000 people were disenfranchised and denied their right to vote. That's NINETY THREE PERCENT.Thanks for playing.

All 900K voters were eligible to vote.

Thanks for assuming that they weren't.

57 posted on 04/12/2016 7:08:28 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: flintsilver7
Of course they did. Those 65,000 elected people to serve as delegates to the state and Congressional district conventions, which then selected the final delegates. The intermediate delegates were selected on March 1st based on who they pledged to support. This is not new in Colorado and the participation rate has been relatively constant in the recent past.

Thanks for the info.

The mouth-breathing angry WWE/NASCAR folks now angrily throwing beer cans at their televisions don’t change that.

Ouch.

58 posted on 04/12/2016 7:10:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: writer33

So when a presidential candidate wins an election(one with voters), he/she should only win presidency over half of the country?


59 posted on 04/12/2016 7:12:39 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: CA Conservative
So then educate us. If the straw poll is binding, why did Santorum get 40% of the vote and only 6 delegates and Romney get 35% and get 13 delegates in 2012?

Go figure it out for yourself. It is not my fault you are uninformed, nor is my responsibility to educate you.
60 posted on 04/12/2016 7:14:10 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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