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Cruz is likely to block Trump on a second ballot at the GOP convention
Washington Post ^ | 04/13/2016 | Ed O' Keefe

Posted on 04/13/2016 5:09:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is close to ensuring that Donald Trump cannot win the GOP nomination on a second ballot at the party’s July convention in Cleveland, scooping up scores of delegates who have pledged to vote for him instead of the front-runner if given the chance.

The push by Cruz means that it is more essential than ever for Trump to clinch the nomination by winning a majority of delegates to avoid a contested and drawn-out convention fight, which Trump seems almost certain to lose.

The GOP race now rests on two cliffhangers: Can Trump lock up the nomination before Cleveland? And if not, can Cruz cobble together enough delegates to win a second convention vote if Trump fails in the first?

Trump’s path to amassing the 1,237 delegates he needs to win outright has only gotten narrower after losing to Cruz in Wisconsin and other recent contests, and would require him to perform better in the remaining states than he has to this point.

In addition, based on the delegate selections made by states and territories, Cruz is poised to pick up at least 130 more votes on a second ballot, according to a Washington Post analysis. That tally surpasses 170 delegates under less conservative assumptions — a number that could make it impossible for Trump to emerge victorious.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: convention; cruz; gop; trump
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To: IrishBrigade

That is not “winning”, that’s “not losing”, and there is a BIG difference.


61 posted on 04/13/2016 5:55:54 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: SmokingJoe

Cruz did not run the office dummy, the AG did.


62 posted on 04/13/2016 5:56:37 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SmokingJoe

I’ll support that, provided Ted Cruz is mathematically capable of getting 1,237 first-ballot delegates in June. But then, he won’t, as of next week.


63 posted on 04/13/2016 5:57:40 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: IrishBrigade
If Cruz wishes to be a friend and ally to Trump, he will drop out as soon as he is eliminated from first round contention, throwing his support to the frontrunner...but he will not.

That depends on how loyal he thinks his delegates and Trump's delegates are. I'd rather have as many loyal Trump/Cruz delegates as possible. If Cruz drops out, around half of his votes will go to Kasich. I do not want a Kasich surge that makes the pro-Amnesty governor look like a legitimate convention choice.

I'd also rather see Trump beat Cruz at the polls and in delegates and earn a first ballot nomination. But Trump is a little shaky on the political campaign process. It's better for him to learn in the primaries so he's as ready as possible for Hillary's corrupt political machine. Cruz creates the need for Trump to build his political skills, and that is a good thing.

64 posted on 04/13/2016 5:58:39 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SmokingJoe

Comments like “Sleazy tRump” or “Lyin Ted” are not helpful for electing a pro-gun, anti-AMnesty, anti-Obamacare candidate in November.

Who will benefit if this continues? Hillary, Bernie, Jeb, Rubio, Kasich, and others who consistently support Amnesty, who consistently support Obamacare, and who consistently support restrictions on our individual, God-given right to keep and bear arms.

Decent Americans are better off with a real truce, and not just a “I’ll stop when every person who even pretends to support the other side stops” gesture toward a truce that will never happen.

The nonsense is not helping us to elect the best possible conservative in November. I want 99% or more of Cruz supporters to vote Trump, when he is nominated, even if they hold their noses. In the event that Cruz wins the nomination, I want 99% or more of Trump supporters to vote Cruz, even if they hold their noses. Offending the other side does not encourage them to vote Trump (or Cruz) in November. I cannot help wondering how many of those who stir up the Trump-Cruz wars are actually paid trolls taking Jeb/Hillary/Soros money to cause trouble - not all of them but probably enough to set the toxic tone.

I stand by my recurring statement:

Cruz and Trump are both imperfect but they agree far more than 80% of the time (see my tagline from Ronald Reagan). They should be friends and allies, and we should treat both of them as such.


65 posted on 04/13/2016 6:03:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: dartuser

Cruz got Rubio’s 173 delegates, lowering his magic number.

The only key thing is whether Trump gets to a firm 1237


66 posted on 04/13/2016 6:04:35 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: trebb

The answer is this-— Make sure Trump has enough votes to stop these moves—Or trust to Trumps ability as a deal maker to weather this storm. He will come out the winner as he always does.


67 posted on 04/13/2016 6:05:59 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Mechanicos
My understanding and it could be wrong, is that if Kasich drops out, per State rules his delegates from Ohio revert to the No. 2 candidate who is Trump.

Nope. Read this. Those delegates HAVE TO VOTE FOR KASIC whether he withdraws or not, according to convention rules.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/what-happens-to-kasichs-delegates-when-he-drops-out

68 posted on 04/13/2016 6:08:25 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: mac_truck

Well we now know you can spam there ‘lil mac. Good boy!


69 posted on 04/13/2016 6:09:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: cincinnati65

That is not “winning”, that’s “not losing”, and there is a BIG difference.

Fine; we’ll just say the Broncos ‘didn’t lose’ the Super Bowl, and leave it at that...still got the rings though, didn’t they...?


70 posted on 04/13/2016 6:10:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

71 posted on 04/13/2016 6:11:02 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Happy Rain

All part of the Donald/Hillary DEAL.
We are still the stupid party.

....so true, the SlicksterBubba playbook seen again. Course the real problem is they aren’t the “stupid” party but the Washington Generals, suit up every night and play to lose, but still get all the trappings of power and prestige.... total losers.

ymmv


72 posted on 04/13/2016 6:12:13 AM PDT by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...we love CHL in TX)
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To: Pollster1

Cruz creates the need for Trump to build his political skills, and that is a good thing.

Yes, a good point...


73 posted on 04/13/2016 6:12:41 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Fai Mao

Rubio is out as of last night. Rubio essentially endorsed Cruz on Levin’s show.

Kasich has already expressed disdain for Trump.

But no doubt, Trump will be under massive pressure to do a deal with Kasich.


74 posted on 04/13/2016 6:13:25 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: JEDI4S

The delegates select the VP , not Trump.

So I have been advocating for the shotgun wedding scenario.


75 posted on 04/13/2016 6:15:51 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman

If the VP job was offered either Rubio or Kasich would jump to Trump.


76 posted on 04/13/2016 6:16:04 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: cincinnati65
Since when is second place "winning"?

Excellent question......touches on my pet peeve.

Second (or third) place Cruz is now saying: “65,000 people voted in the state of Colorado. They just didn’t vote for you Donald Trump. They voted for our campaign."

Cruz is fond of that ploy-----labeling votes he received (or stole) as anti-Trump-votes.....but Cruz never applies Trump's voluminous vote-getting as being against him.

If Trump won by staggering numbers....that means Cruz lost by staggering numbers.....many many more rejected Cruz than they did Trump.

Does this look like Trump was rejected?

Trump.....8,256,309.... 37.0 1%....758 delegates

Cruz......6,319,244....28.33%.....533 (plus all he can steal)

Cruz keeps losing and losing. About time he bows out gracefully and admit he lost. And he should stop finagling the numbers.

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Lowlife Ted ....the human cockaroach....is crawling around 24/7 grabbing delegates he is not entitled to.

If there were any failings, it's b/c the Trump people just did not envision the likes of a scumbag like St Ted, reworking the rules to HIS benefit.......the Saint is obsessed w/ Trump hatred, bent on undoing Trump's wins.

AS FREEPER SAM ADAMS76 POSTED: "Cruz would love to have Trump’s 'delegate problems.' Trump is hundreds of delegates ahead and about to ring up a couple hundred more before this month is up. What happened to Cruz’s much ballyhooed “ground game” in the Deep South? He had his head handed to him by a Yankee. I don’t see much Cruz ground game here in New York either. Except for some footprints in the Bronx where he made a rather hasty retreat. I guess Cruz isn’t in Kansas anymore." (hat tip Sam Adams 76)

My biggest gripe is con artist Cruz sees a "party rule" and connives to make it work only to HIS advantage. Crux is exactly the type of candidate w/ an obsessive thirst for power that the Framers of the Constitution wanted the new Nation to guard against.

When candidates lose, they gracefully bow out. St Cruz Gives a victory speech. His maniacal lust for power tags him as the kind of candidate the Framers of The Constitution wanted the new Nation to avoid.

77 posted on 04/13/2016 6:17:14 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Again, if he drops out before the convention the conventions has no effect on him and the State rules control.

Nice try, but you missed.


78 posted on 04/13/2016 6:18:17 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: fooman

Kasich has teamed up with Trump in MI.


79 posted on 04/13/2016 6:19:23 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz is bought paid for and OWNED!!!

NEW YORK — This Monday, assorted bankers, traders and Wall Street lawyers will gather inside the neo-Georgian walls of the Harvard Club in midtown Manhattan to write big checks to an unlikely recipient: Ted Cruz.


80 posted on 04/13/2016 6:19:42 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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