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Lapsed Rubio Delegates Are Up for Grabs on Convention's First Ballot
NBC News ^ | April 14,2016 | by ARI MELBER

Posted on 04/14/2016 8:21:36 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Only 34 of the 172 delegates Rubio won in the primaries will be immediately up for grabs on the first ballot in Cleveland. That development is opening up a fierce competition to win these lapsed Rubio delegates, which are located in Oklahoma, Minnesota and Louisiana.

"Our state rules say if someone is not on the ballot, they are free to vote for whomever they choose," said Oklahoma GOP chair Pam Pollard, "and I support that."

"We have 12 bound delegates for Rubio," she told NBC News, "so if he is not on the ballot — those 12 delegates are free to vote whatever way they want."

Minnesota, where Rubio won his second largest haul with 17 delegates, applies a similar rule. The state party ruled that delegates may "vote for any candidate" if the one they support is not on the first ballot at the convention.

The icing on the cake for Rubio's rivals is that most of his lapsed delegates have not even been selected yet, making them easier to pick off.

Next month, Minnesota and Oklahoma choose delegates at state conventions. Oklahoma's application for delegates even includes an excerpt of the state law that authorizes them to switch their selection.

While Donald Trump is blasting the delegate system on the campaign trail, including criticizing the RNC for allocations made mostly by state parties, MSNBC has learned the Cruz campaign is continuing a laser focus on picking up delegates.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; delegates; rubio; trump
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1 posted on 04/14/2016 8:21:36 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

“While Donald Trump is blasting the delegate system “

He should be thanking the system that gives him 22% more delegates in proportion to the individual voting ...


2 posted on 04/14/2016 8:23:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Hojczyk

Will The Donald serve Trump Cheese to go with the Trump Whine about the unfairness of Cruz scooping up these delegates too?


3 posted on 04/14/2016 8:24:09 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Abraham Lincoln won the GOP nomination on the 3rd ballot at the 1860 convention)
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To: Hojczyk

Let the bidding begin!


4 posted on 04/14/2016 8:24:29 AM PDT by HoosierWordsmith
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To: TexasGator

“He should be thanking the system that gives him 22% more delegates in proportion to the individual voting”

*****

And thanking Rubio and Carson for staying in the race as long as they did so it made it easier to win, particularly in states that allowed Dimwit/Induhpendent votes in GOP primaries.


5 posted on 04/14/2016 8:25:54 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Abraham Lincoln won the GOP nomination on the 3rd ballot at the 1860 convention)
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To: TexasGator

“He should be thanking the system that gives him 22% more delegates in proportion to the individual voting ...”

And how over represented is Cruz’s delegate count?


6 posted on 04/14/2016 8:27:35 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: Hojczyk
Methinks Little Rubio is having a complete meltdown.

Will not run for Senate reelection or for FL Governor.

Rubio gives up on Senate: ‘He hates it’

Marco Rubio: 'I'm not running for governor of Florida'

“I’m going to be a private citizen in January.”

7 posted on 04/14/2016 8:35:31 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Hojczyk

I support Trump.

But he needs to play the game by the rules with regard to these delegates, which means wooing them....rather than moaning about Cruz wooing them.

We are all on notice. There are REAL votes for the nomination up for grabs. RIGHT NOW.

Trump should call them personally. Because you can be that Cruz will be doing so.


8 posted on 04/14/2016 8:42:08 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: peyton randolph
. . . particularly in states that allowed Dimwit/Induhpendent votes in GOP primaries.

Pennsylvania is a closed primary, but we've had, at last count, over 100,000 net voters switch to GOP registration to vote for Trump, judging by his huge lead in the polls here.

I'd wager that Trump is a net beneficiary of crossover voting. How many of those will stick with him in November remain to be seen.

9 posted on 04/14/2016 8:50:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Hojczyk; Political Junkie Too
I raised a similar question in a related thread yesterday:



10 posted on 04/14/2016 9:00:27 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

You have to look at each state’s individual party rules for the answers. I can not find Ohio’s on GP. Someone forwarded me their rules though, and I think they are assigned to the 2nd runner up -Trump. But Kasich would have to exit for that to happen. He doesn’t look like he’s going anyplace soon.


11 posted on 04/14/2016 9:15:34 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: ConservativeDude

This certainly wouldn’t hurt, and I’m betting he has done this already.

However, understand that a much different strategy is that by “whining” about it, he keeps the corruptions of the GOPe in front of everyone and, on par, sustains more support than he might otherwise by quietly getting the delegates.

That said, I’m quite convinced he already has gotten the Carson and Christie delegates and many of the Virgin Islands delegates. Just a hunch, but I think this is why the RNC guy yesterday said Trump would win it with 1100 delegates. I think he meant “CURRENT PLEDGED DELEGATES” knowing that Trump had wrapped up a number of these “loose” delegates.


12 posted on 04/14/2016 9:19:22 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TexasGator

There is nothing trump won’t whine about. 22% more or not


13 posted on 04/14/2016 9:52:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: TomGuy

IF Kasich doesn’t suspend or withdraw, his delegates are still bound to him, even if he doesn’t qualify under Rule 40. IF he drops out, then they may be unbound depending upon the state. I think Ohio requires them to be bound to him on the first ballot regardless.


14 posted on 04/14/2016 9:56:10 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Hojczyk

Why are not they just allotted according to the voting summary? IMHO this is one of the things wrong with the current system. It leaves the wishes of the voters out of the equation. No way should they be sold to the highest bidder.


15 posted on 04/14/2016 9:57:39 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Here is what the Ohio GOP said about the matter:

"Brittany Warner, Communications Director for the Ohio Republican Party, told Conservative Review that the delegates remain bound only for the first ballot.

Warner also confirmed that the first ballot binding must be for Kasich, and no one else. Warner said, "what you questioned yesterday[regarding delegates going to Trump] is not correct. As the rules state, the 66 delegates will go to the winner of the Ohio primary (John Kasich).”

Saying that Trump would get the 66 delegates from Ohio if Kasich dropped out was being used as an argument for Kasich’s continuance in the race for the nomination. It was argued that he needed to stay in. That argument is clearly false. Kasich will keep his Ohio delegates and they are bound to him on the first vote. He cannot release them to vote for any other candidate during that round."

16 posted on 04/14/2016 10:01:35 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: TexasGator

I wish Trump would stop whining and get the damn delegates. He would wrap this up before the convention.


17 posted on 04/14/2016 10:07:08 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: freeangel

Quit your whinin’ ya crybaby.


18 posted on 04/14/2016 10:09:51 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: CA Conservative

And for the record, The Conservative Review details how the other 79 Kasich delegates are handled on a state-by-state basis.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/what-happens-to-kasichs-delegates-when-he-drops-out


19 posted on 04/14/2016 10:17:46 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that one.


20 posted on 04/14/2016 10:24:43 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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