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Colorado delegates should be excluded from the RNC. Agreed? [VOTE]
Red State Watcher ^ | 4/14/2016

Posted on 04/14/2016 9:51:48 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Going to make an entire country “Great Again”, yet cannot effectively manage a campaign or find the right people to do so. Seventy years old in June and it shows.


41 posted on 04/14/2016 11:14:41 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: FranklinsTower

You’ve nailed it.

The GOPe owns the party. The party makes the rules and can change them, just before the convention.

Yes, gaming the system is part of the game.

However, it could be that there are a substantial chunk of conservative voters out there who are just absolutely sick of GOPe gamesmanship, weasel words, sleight of hand and claims that “the system” keeps them from doing the right thing, or “the system” makes them do the wrong thing.

Maybe these voters see the clever diligence that lawyer Cruz and his team are using in an effort to wriggle around that lil’ ol’ problem of lack of voter support, and they think of the way the GOPe has treated them.

Spirit of the law? Not if you can use the letter as a tool to ignore what’s right or those damnable voters.

Hell, we haven’t had a budget since Obama got elected, and Paul Ryan just said we aren’t going to have one again this year.

“Conservative” GOP politicians spend like drunken sailors via a continuing resolution farce that uses the Porkulus bloated baseline every damn year. Why vote on a stimulus boondoggle when you can just build it in? It’s in the rules, depending on how you look at them. Debt ceiling? They just changed that rule, it’s gone.

That way there’s no voting on the debt ceiling, no government “shutdown” and no nasty budget to use as a yardstick to see how fast these “conservatives” are shoveling steroids down the maw of Fedzilla. It’s a great way to game the old and tiresome constitutional obligation to have an actual budget.

This might not be a year when gamesmanship plays well with the electorate.


42 posted on 04/14/2016 11:19:53 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Isn't this a more appropriate question for the convention credentials committee, and then for the convention, as a whole, when their credentials report is delivered at the opening of the convention? The RNC's committee can only "report" to the convention and then objections can be raised as actual motions.

It also might help, if people really feel so strongly about Colorado's delegate selection process and they are Republicans who live in Colorado, to actually attend the off-year organizing conventions and caucuses.

43 posted on 04/14/2016 11:21:20 PM PDT by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: madison10

No. Trump and his people needs to learn to follow directions. This isn’t about him>>> this is my opinion but should we all obey the rules because they are the rules or should we seek a better process. The rules at one time stated women couldn’t vote and blacks where slaves. there was a lot of stuff that kept that engine running. just my opinion.


44 posted on 04/14/2016 11:44:07 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Impy
“Do you want some guy to come stab you in the face?”

Callimg the number one Cubnadian fanboy....oh Mr. Beck, someone is trying to steal your gig!

45 posted on 04/14/2016 11:46:43 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

It is my understanding Hawaii has the same system as Colorado. I’m sure you are for eliminating their results too. Right?


46 posted on 04/14/2016 11:50:00 PM PDT by buckeye49
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

[[Is there a whinier and deceived bunch of sore losers than Cruz fans?]]

Yes Trump fans


47 posted on 04/15/2016 12:21:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: buckeye49

not only that but florida trump didn’t complain when he walked away with 90% of delegates, nor in Missouri he was nearly tied with Ted for actual votes but walked away with over 70% of delegates- the voters were ‘disenfranchised’ in those states as well- they might as well not even have voted-


48 posted on 04/15/2016 12:26:40 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

No. They followed the rules, but barely. Instead the officials who put cost over Freedom should lose their positions.


49 posted on 04/15/2016 12:28:50 AM PDT by Ingtar (68.9% del allocated. Trump 61.3%, Cruz 44.0% of required for nomination 4/13)
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To: ModelBreaker
Glad to hear it!

I can't remember her name, but the GOPe in Colorado was trying to run a moderate for governor, but she hadn't even lived in the state long enough to establish residency.

There were enough conservatives at the convention to kick her to the curb, so that was a good sign, but it was a bad sign that there were any squishes at all in the party, let alone a large minority.

50 posted on 04/15/2016 12:42:18 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ModelBreaker

“When you add his low level of support to his non-existent get-out-the-vote effort for national delegate, you get a shut-out.”

Based on the earlier, smaller Wyoming caucus results (mostly to Cruz) I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz gets them all in Wyoming.

I’m in Washington and left my precinct as a delegate, and was elected at the district level to go to state. First time I’ve ever been involved. Pretty sad that the local involvement was pretty low. At the district level where we picked 27 delegates there were only about 200 to 300 precinct delegates to vote on us.

90% of the delegates from my district are Cruz supporters. I think that was maybe due to a lot of email and calls reminding us to get to the caucus. It will be interesting to see if the state convention is also primarily Cruz supporters. Or - maybe it was just my area, but I sort of doubt it. I read where Trump sent out a mailing but lots of areas had already had their precinct caucuses. AND he sent them to Washington D.C. oops!

But we are “unbound” delegates. Even if I was to go to the national level I would be unbound on the second ballot and vote for whomever. But, here in Washington we will be having a primary election, and our delegates are bound to the winner of that for the first ballot. So maybe if Trump comes in and does some big rallies and media buys he could win the primary.

What one needs to remember is that the back in the day, and even now, the delegates in a caucus were elected for their good judgement as much as anything else (hence so many states having unbound delegates). I’m guessing that is even more so at the state level where we will no doubt be voting in some of the more famous people, like the wannabe politician that is always running in my county and pushing stuff at the capitol, or the local radio talk-show guy.

Anyway - it should be interesting at the state convention. If Cruz can make it to Wyoming, I’m guessing he will be in Washington. Depending on how things look for him in May.


51 posted on 04/15/2016 12:47:45 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Only if winner take all states like Florida are excluded also. It’s so unfair! Wa wa wa.


52 posted on 04/15/2016 3:30:36 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

40 years ago Colorado was a wonderful, conservative state. We have become victims to the Californication of our wonderful state. Tourist season should be a no bag limit, year round event. You a$$holes have ruined what was once a paradise.

Shame on Liberals, Californians, Texans, and all the other vermin that are ruining a once beautiful state.


53 posted on 04/15/2016 3:38:54 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: Cololeo

Sorry. I really didn’t mean to tone down my piseed-off-ness.

I am getting to the point I would welcome CWII.


54 posted on 04/15/2016 3:42:25 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Bwahaaaaahaaa

Keep up the whine, care for some cheese?

Seriously, listen to us. We are Republicans, Federalists. We believe in the compact that we call our Constitution, and in the sovereignty of the individual states. It’s up to each state to determine it’s method of candidate selection, and even more importantly, up to the party. Do you want Dem legislators writing Republican party rules?

Why do we have the electoral college? Why does the House decide a contested election? Because this is a Republic, not a democracy. Ask Robespierre how well that worked out.

If you are so certain that democratic processes always produce the best result, I think I found a party you might like.


55 posted on 04/15/2016 3:49:06 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: BigBobber

Kind of reminds me of John McEnroe having a case of the vapors.
Not pretty at all.


56 posted on 04/15/2016 4:33:17 AM PDT by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of God and Virginian because Jesus loves me. CRUZ 2016!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

We should just exclude all the delegates that don’t like Trump. That would be fair.


57 posted on 04/15/2016 4:36:19 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Why were you not on this PRIOR to the Colorado convention? The means by which these delegates were to be selected was publicized and well known to anyone with enough interest to investigate. That includes Trump.

That all of this commotion is happening after trump was shut out looks like whining.

Perhaps Donald should not have waited until 30 states had voted before bringing in the establishment guys he’s now hired to stop the bleeding.

If he should gain the WH I hope he doesn’t rely on only his own counsel, as it’s become pretty clear he wants little part of the detail work.


58 posted on 04/15/2016 4:51:58 AM PDT by dmz
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I thought I’d read, somewhere, the other day that they ARE, in fact, excluded from the first round.

I think they should be excluded, period.


59 posted on 04/15/2016 4:55:40 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: JerseyDvl

LOL to your spot on post!! Agree 100%.


60 posted on 04/15/2016 4:57:03 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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