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To: BagCamAddict

This will amount to nothing as Trump voters are too lazy to know the rules and show up at their precinct level meetings and further to vote. Their best effort is to come out and shout for a couple of hours instead of putting in the hundreds of hours and money necessary to get to the national delegate level. Lazy and uninformed is a sad way to go through life.


19 posted on 04/15/2016 2:41:08 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: Savage Rider

“...instead of putting in the hundreds of hours and money necessary to get to the national delegate level.”

And I know you aren’t talking about bribes like some other poster frequently does after they found out that you can donate to your delegate so they can afford to get to the national convention.

I got several emails and a phone call from a Cruz volunteer to make sure I got out to my local Washington state precinct to vote. That is the ground game that takes hundreds of hours and money. (Although probably not a huge amount of money as it is mostly volunteering).

I will be going to my State Convention as a Cruz delegate. Those hours and money spent LOCALLY will probably make it mostly Cruz delegates at the state convention.


35 posted on 04/15/2016 3:08:06 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Savage Rider
This will amount to nothing as Trump voters are too lazy to know the rules and show up at their precinct level meetings and further to vote. Their best effort is to come out and shout for a couple of hours instead of putting in the hundreds of hours and money necessary to get to the national delegate level. Lazy and uninformed is a sad way to go through life.

In other words, anyone who is not part of the political "club" should not have a voice in the political process.

I used to be agnostic about the "Trump or Cruz" question, saying I would be happy to vote for whichever one came out the winner. My feelings now is that the Cruz camp has more than its share of totalitarians. I'm disgusted.

49 posted on 04/15/2016 3:20:20 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Savage Rider
Oh really?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28700919/colorado-republicans-cancel-2016-presidential-caucus-vote

This article is dated AUGUST 25, 2015, not even a year ago. This also proves that the GOPe, seeing Trump's success purposely went this route to hurt the outsiders. See the bold red highlighting below. The GOPe Gods determined that they and only they would be the goal keepers of the delegates. Sure you and other peasants could go through the process. But the GOPe has/had the power to say no to anyone who was pro Trump. I cannot imagine not even having a straw poll to reflect the will of the peasants.

Colorado will not vote for a Republican candidate for president at its 2016 caucus after party leaders approved a little-noticed shift that may diminish the state's clout in the most open nomination contest in the modern era.

The GOP executive committee has voted to cancel the traditional presidential preference poll after the national party changed its rules to require a state's delegates to support the candidate who wins the caucus vote.

The move makes Colorado the only state so far to forfeit a role in the early nomination process, according to political experts, but other caucus states are still considering how to adapt to the new rule.

“It takes Colorado completely off the map” in the primary season, said Ryan Call, a former state GOP chairman.

Republicans still will hold precinct caucus meetings in early 2016 to begin the process of selecting delegates for the national convention — but the 37 delegates are not pledged to any specific candidate.

For Republicans, no declared winner means the caucus will lack much of its hype. The presidential campaigns still may try to win delegate slots for their supporters, but experts say the move makes it less likely that candidates will visit Colorado to court voters.

The Colorado system often favors anti-establishment candidates who draw a dedicated following among activists — as evidenced by Rick Santorum’s victory in 2012 caucus. So the party's move may hurt GOP contenders such as Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Rand Paul, who would have received a boost if they won the state.

52 posted on 04/15/2016 3:22:56 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEAL out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Savage Rider
instead of putting in the hundreds of hours and money necessary to get to the national delegate level

So you are in favor of We, The People, not having a vote? You are in favor of only those people who PAY money should have a vote? You are in favor of the only people who do get to vote are people who (a) pay money, and (b) can take time away from their jobs and families to "participate in the process"?

So a single mother who works two minimum wage jobs to make ends meet, and she can't afford the $65 to attend the local caucus, and she doesn't own a car so she can't drive to the state convention, and she can't afford a night in a hotel (and the babysitter to take care of her kids), and she can't get the time off work from her two jobs to attend the state convention.... She doesn't get a vote because she can't "put in the hundreds of hours and money necessary" ?

I see.

57 posted on 04/15/2016 3:34:34 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (Wolverines!! #NeverHillary)
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To: Savage Rider

so according to you - in order to vote in this great nation of ours, its not enough to work all week, pay taxes, raise our kids etc. etc., no it seems we must spend a couple of hundred hours and cash bribes to the party bosses in order to vote.


93 posted on 04/15/2016 7:27:53 PM PDT by arrow107 (The risk of insult is the price of clarity, and it is a price few are willing to pay)
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