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Why Ted Cruz’s VAT really is a VAT
American Enterprise Institute ^ | 01/15/16 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 04/15/2016 10:56:53 PM PDT by Hanna548

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To: Hanna548

Will Wyoming understand it in time?


161 posted on 04/16/2016 5:21:15 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. %%%)
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To: Hanna548

I’m sure I’m late to the party and someone else must have pointed this out but, tRump’s tariffs will also be paid by consumers and the countries upon whom these tariffs are imposed will certainly hit back on our products killing jobs while raising prices.
Economic illiteracy from Bernie’s fans I understand but, it’s rampant.


162 posted on 04/16/2016 5:22:31 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: outofsalt
certainly hit back on our products killing jobs while raising prices.

Where did this idiotic and delusion idea start that our exports aren't ALREADY subject to huge tariffs now? We are in a one sided trade war NOW with the rest of the world.

It like saying shooting back will cause more incoming fire. That's ridiculous. We need to start shooting back.

163 posted on 04/16/2016 5:26:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hanna548

I thought Congress wrote the tax laws. Isn’t congress 1/3 of the problem?


164 posted on 04/16/2016 5:26:50 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: nopardons

A VAT is the most regressive tax anyone could invent. Someone “lving” off of $900 per month in SS now has her inome taxed at 16% off the top for the things she purchases it. It is another way for Heidi’s GS Friends to screw the retired class.


165 posted on 04/16/2016 5:32:30 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Hanna548

https://www.tedcruz.org/tax_plan/

The business tax is also a flat tax of 16% vs. 10% personal tax and replaces the 55% corporate tax.


166 posted on 04/16/2016 5:36:10 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member)
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To: outofsalt
Why do you think your using “tRump” gives you any type of credibility on any subject?
167 posted on 04/16/2016 5:36:30 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Just mythoughts

Exactly! This is his globalist tax that will go nicely with Heidi’s North American Union plan. VAT is the worst tax because it is hidden.


168 posted on 04/16/2016 5:41:11 AM PDT by bigtoona (The media, GOPe, dems, commie Pope, hate Trump. He is the destroyer we've been waiting for!)
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To: Hanna548

After we abolish the IRS, how is this tax going to be collected? Post card? Oh, sure.


169 posted on 04/16/2016 5:41:23 AM PDT by Religion and Politics
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To: Chgogal
I'm sorry, did you happen to call attention to the dozens of posters who insult Cruz and his wife with all kinds of slurs? tRump has spent the entire campaign insulting republicans so, I like to see how he and his supporters like it.

Trump has insulted all of the republican candidates;
Jeb, low energy, loser,
Santorum, lightweight, loser
Rubio, little Marco
Carson, psychotic (pedophile?) Fiorina, horse face
Perry, dumb, puts on glasses to look smart Graham, stiff, beggar for money
Christie, Fat slob oompaloompa
Jindal, “He drove me here” Kasich, His wife never climaxed
Paul, A poor version of his father
and of course,
Cruz, Lying Ted.

But, he is YUGE and he has an airplane. What a guy...He’s going to unite the Republican Party!

170 posted on 04/16/2016 5:46:46 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Hanna548
To be fair, all taxes are eventually paid by all, but the way they are set up can incentivize or make healthy the tax collecting environment, to penalize people the most fairly and minimize the negative effects.
171 posted on 04/16/2016 5:48:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Hanna548

This ensures that welfare recipients, foreign visitors, and everyone else pays for what they consume that they didn’t grow or make from what they already had.


172 posted on 04/16/2016 5:51:35 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Hanna548

Welfare recipients already don’t pay tax. I believe they should and should have their gifted monies looked at as income, don’t you?


173 posted on 04/16/2016 5:53:27 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: outofsalt
What has that to do with YOU?
174 posted on 04/16/2016 5:54:10 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Hanna548

How is that tax rate any different than what we have today? We have more tax taken out today than your example shows.


175 posted on 04/16/2016 5:55:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Just mythoughts

Would you explain your thinking on that further?


176 posted on 04/16/2016 5:56:01 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Hanna548

Actually it isn’t really a 16% tax. A VAT is a Value Added Tax, this means that at every stage of production as a value is added to X it is taxed at 16%.

Let’s say iron ore is $10.00 a ton, when sold to a user of the iron ore it is taxed at 16%. So now it’s value is $11.60. The foundry creates iron ingots that it sells for $20.00 a ton, it has to sdd the 16% tax on top of that price.

This continues on and on until the producr is sold to the end user.


177 posted on 04/16/2016 5:56:39 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: central_va

Thanks for the charts. The reality of what is going on is depressing. Much of this is the result of crony capitalism. A lot of those overcompensated CEOs run Beltway bandits doing nothing for anyone except the political “elite” in DC.


178 posted on 04/16/2016 5:58:17 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Funny thing about Free Traitors™, they will ask me to post data on my assertions about the dying economy and when I do they never respond or make comments.


179 posted on 04/16/2016 6:01:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nopardons

>Not to mention the fact that Ted and Heidi have lived apart for the majority of their marriage and the girls call him “THE GUEST”.

That’s really sad. My dad spent a lot of time working away from home and it was hard for us. But my mother was able to stay home and raise us and my dad eventually found a job that was closer by.


180 posted on 04/16/2016 6:17:56 AM PDT by RedWulf
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