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To: freespirit2012

I don’t necessarily agree. I like that party nominees are chosen by people willing to spend more time during the process, not just people casually popping in and out to cast a vote in 5 minutes. Electing people to represent any organization should be done by people truly committed to that organization. The caucus/convention process seems to be electing people who represent the party platform better this time.

I would want to get rid of any winner-take-all rules, which are the most undemocratic part of the process. The Democrats have the right idea with proportional representation for delegates only. And I like New York’s rule that you have to be registered as a Republican for 8 or so months to vote in the primary. I want absolutely no crossover voting. Electing our nominee should be by committed party members only.

Democracy is for the general election. Our party needs to be run by people with a minimal history in our party, not casual people coming out of nowhere the day of the election to vote.


349 posted on 04/16/2016 11:52:09 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: JediJones

Very status quo. Straight ahead as she goes, tedtanic.


350 posted on 04/17/2016 12:13:51 AM PDT by Vision Thing (ted cruzinski is the unaparty)
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To: JediJones
I like that party nominees are chosen by people willing to spend more time during the process, not just people casually popping in and out to cast a vote in 5 minutes. Electing people to represent any organization should be done by people truly committed to that organization. The caucus/convention process seems to be electing people who represent the party platform better this time.

In other words, you want the Republican Establishment firmly in control of the process of selecting the nominee.

The "Establishment" is not just the senior state boss, nor the major donors.

The Establishment runs much deeper than that. The "top leaders" wouldn't be able to get anything done without the support of the lower-level state and local party establishment, just like the Mafia Dons couldn't run anything without the lower levels seeing a benefit.

The Establishment is everyone connected to the Republican party who derives a benefit from being a "member of the club", and it runs deep. It includes the donors who expect to be able use their donor status to get "problems" fixed. It includes the lower-level officials who need the cash of the donors to pay their own salaries (and get side benefits from being the "go to" guys for getting problems fixed). It includes the campaign consultants, who get paid millions every election season. The delegates, who have to be individually "wooed", are part of the Establishment.

People haven't really realized this before, when they talked about the Establishment.

374 posted on 04/17/2016 6:08:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: JediJones

IOW, you don’t want the people to chose who should run for president...You want the GOPe establishment to always pick who you should vote for....Uh-huh...Kinda like they do in Venezuala...

(We’ll tell you who is running, you just vote for them)...


375 posted on 04/17/2016 6:15:01 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: JediJones
I would want to get rid of any winner-take-all rules, which are the most undemocratic part of the process. The Democrats have the right idea with proportional representation for delegates only. And I like New York’s rule that you have to be registered as a Republican for 8 or so months to vote in the primary. I want absolutely no crossover voting. Electing our nominee should be by committed party members only.

If we go that way, I would want one more reform: the candidates select the delegates, with no input from the party bosses. When a Republican voter votes for candidate X, he has a right to expect that the delegate thus selected will fairly and honestly represent HIS intent, not the intent of the party bosses.

376 posted on 04/17/2016 6:15:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: JediJones

Well, I guess we just disagree.. I could probably agree on using only proportional representation.. But, you do understand by leaving voting to the establishment, that Jeb Bush would have won all the Wyoming votes if Trump had not already eliminated him.


385 posted on 04/17/2016 1:28:07 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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