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To: FenwickBabbitt

Wow. Just wow.

The sad thing is you discount every liberal policy and belief the man says, in order to project your desired candidate’s qualities on the man.

In reality, Trump is about one thing, and one thing only: Trump. Not America, not conservative principles, heck, not even liberal ones. He is only for himself.

It is why he plasters his name all over everything. It’s why his decorating tastes have more in common with Saddam Hussein than the average American. (Seriously, the man gold plates everything)

I implore you, take a step back and critically look at him. Look at what he says.

Maybe he is socially conservative? Nope. Was for partial birth abortion and to this day is for homosexual marriage. His judgement is so lacking on this, when presented with a new question on it, he even said he thought women should be punished for engaging in abortion, then proceeded to spend the next 3 days jumping all over the place in what he believes, or should I say what he believes you want him to believe.

Maybe he is fiscally conservative? Nope. He has proposed crazy garbage like one time taxes on just the wealthy, and even his tax plan today is still a progressive tax plan in that it still has brackets. They may be smaller amounts, but he does not believe in equality. He believes in punishing those that make more because they can afford it.

Maybe he is a states rights guy? Nope. During this campaign he has taken the position that the federal government handles the land under the BLS better than the states themselves do. He obviously had never even thought of the subject, but his default position was one of a strong federal government.

Maybe he is conservative from a private property rights perspective? Nope. He still feels the government was right to use eminent domain to take land from one private citizen to give to another private citizen.

Maybe he is conservative about healthcare? Nope. He has advocated single payer healthcare in the past, still advocates for universal healthcare (funded by the government) today, and even views it and education as 2 of the 3 most important functions of government.

There is nothing conservative about Donald J. Trump, you are projecting your wants and desires on a blank slate whom is no better than Barrack Obama.

Look carefully about who you are supporting and lending your name to, you likely will regret it if you are not careful.


766 posted on 04/17/2016 5:49:07 AM PDT by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: plewis1250
Look carefully about who you are supporting and lending your name to, you likely will regret it if you are not careful.

Supporting Cruz and Kasich is rapidly going to aiding a abetting the enemy as well as attacking common sense.

Donald has let us get to know who he is over the course of these 8 months and so has Ted.

Do you honestly think FreeRepublic was just a bunch of latent Trump fan boys? Most everyone thought when Trump announced - "Donald Trump, president what that guys a self promoting jackass" or something along those lines.

Trump has some none of the others have its called Leadership. He also is tenaciously America first.

793 posted on 04/17/2016 6:56:32 AM PDT by datricker (Its morning again in America! Don't let the putznuggets steal your future. Vote Trump)
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To: plewis1250
You have not actually addressed the points I made, all of which were backed up with primary source evidence. I am not trying to claim that Trump never held any liberal views, but rather that if you look at the totality of his past worldview it was not liberal overall. Even at his furthest left, he was still right-of-center. Some people claim otherwise because they cherry pick quotes and refuse to look at his whole record.

I wanted to illustrate on many of the key issues he’s running on, he has actually been pretty consistent in his beliefs, often using nearly the same phrasing for years. That’s not true for every issue, of course, but even there I think it is important to look at the whole picture in context, which is something a lot of the specifically Trump-hating Cruz supporters refuse to do. So I implore you, take a step back and critically look at him—at his entire history.

The sad thing is you discount every liberal policy and belief the man says, in order to project your desired candidate’s qualities on the man.

In reality, Trump is about one thing, and one thing only: Trump. Not America, not conservative principles, heck, not even liberal ones. He is only for himself.

You are, of course, the one projecting by making such an obviously subjective pronouncement like this. That is your opinion (and one on very shaky ground at that)—nothing more. Please, take an honest look at what you are doing and try not to become what you are criticizing.

There is nothing conservative about Donald J. Trump, you are projecting your wants and desires on a blank slate whom is no better than Barrack Obama.

Then you must be arguing that all the points that JimRob wrote about are not conservative, because I’ve already provided evidence that most of those stances have been Trump’s long-term positions.

For the one specific point I wrote about that you did mention, the one-time wealth tax he proposed in 2000, I’ve already explained how he believed that most of the very wealthy who were taxed would actually make all of their money back (if not more) via a boom in business and investments caused by finally paying off the national debt. In regard to health care, he has made it clear over and over that he only wants the government to fund those too poor to afford their own health care (so they are not dying in the streets, as he likes to say). Education is an important function of local governments. I watched the town hall, and Trump never said that he thought that specifically the federal government should control it—in fact, he’s said quite the opposite many, many times and was doing so at least a decade and half before he declared his candidacy for president.

I’ve never seen proof that Trump has at any time supported gay marriage as a policy (yes, I know he told Tim Russert in 1999 that he hadn’t made up his mind on the subject and that he attended a friend’s gay marriage, but that’s not the same thing as being for it as a political policy). He has, on the other hand, said explicitly that he is not for gay marriage. Yes, he did change his position on abortion, I will give you that (although I, at least, am willing to accept that people can change their minds over the years). However, Supreme Court appointments are just about the only thing a president can do on that subject, and I already addressed that topic in my long post (he is setting it up so that there will be no question or wiggle room over whether he will appoint conservatives).

I’m sorry, but at a time when the country is falling apart, forgive me if I don’t care much about taking federal land and giving it to the states, retaining a progressive income tax (while slashing taxes overall), or keeping the eminent domain laws as they are. I would encourage you to reevaluate your priorities.

935 posted on 04/17/2016 8:52:47 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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