Posted on 04/18/2016 11:58:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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RUSH: This NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 62% Republican voters, new poll, say that the Republican presidential candidate with the most votes should be the party's nominee if no candidate wins a majority. So even if nobody gets to 1,237, 62% of Republicans, "Go ahead and give it to the guy who gets closest."
Fifty-five percent said that it is acceptable if Ted Cruz wins the nomination at a contested convention. And about 71% say that it is unacceptable for delegates to choose a nominee who has not run in the primaries. But there were a lot of people that ran in the primaries, and some of them would be ideal choices of the Republican establishment.
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RUSH: Mike in Pompano Beach, Florida, we start on the phones with you. Great to have you. Hello.
CALLER: Thanks, Rush. It's a pleasure to be on with you. My question is, with Trump... Hypothetically speaking at the end of this, if he has millions and millions more votes, hundreds and hundreds more delegates, and has won the vast majority of states -- like 35 or some odd states -- how does Ted Cruz get that nomination, whether it be by a second vote or a third vote, and still have all Trump's voters not feel like they got robbed and support him? I don't see how it happens. I mean, logistically, how could it be done?
RUSH: See, there's a way that all of that can happen, and what Trump is doing here by going down the road that everything's rigged and that he's being cheated, Trump's philosophy is blowing up that potential strategy that the establishment has of somehow awarding this to somebody else on the second or third ballot. That's why Trump is... There was no canceled election in Colorado. Yet, Trump writes an op-ed on Friday talking about the election being cancelled.
Today on Drudge there's a story about the four Cruz guys that could cancel the election. There wasn't a canceled Election Day. There was no election planned in Colorado. But so the theme is being established by Trump that he's being cheated, that it's being rigged. The whole thing's rigged in favor of everybody but him, so that if something happens and he doesn't win it on the first ballot and somebody else does, then this is made to order for the Trump voters to skedaddle and get the hell out of there and just be fit to be tied.
CALLER: But my question again... I know that that's what he's trying to do, but I'm just saying: Let's say he does get to the end and he does have millions more votes. It's rare that anybody gets all the votes of all the states and all the delegates but doesn't get the nomination. Don't you think the voters -- regardless of what he's trying to do -- will dislike that?
RUSH: Look, you have... I've been this over and over and I'm catching hell from every direction it in explaining this. No matter how I explain it, the Trump or Cruz supporters think I'm endorsing what they're doing. It's amazing to see this. Let me just give you Pennsylvania as an example. The short answer to your question is, the millions and millions of voters do not choose the nominee. In many states they do, but in some states they don't. Let me give an example: Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, coming up soon, has 71 delegates available. By the way, you notice the nominee has to get 1,237 delegates. There's no mention of votes. It's the votes of 1,237 delegates. You with me so far out there, Mike?
CALLER: I am, but --
RUSH: Hang in there. Hang in. I just want to explain.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: Look, Mike, I'm just explaining. I don't want you to assume I'm arguing or anything. I'm just explaining. So in the case of Pennsylvania, 71 delegates. But the winner of the popular vote is only gonna get 17 of them. The other 54 are up for grabs based on other criteria, but they are not bound to vote. On the first ballot, they are not bound to vote for the popular vote winner at the convention, and there have been some states with similar rules.
But Trump is also... He has been able to... He's actually benefited from this system. For example, in Florida... Get this: In Florida, he got all delegates. Despite not winning every vote, he got all the delegates. In Florida, do you know that on the first three ballots, the delegates have to vote for the popular vote winner -- in this case, Trump? So on the first three ballots, Florida delegates must vote for Trump. There is no second. Cruz cannot hope to get Florida no matter what he does -- Kasich cannot hope to -- unless it goes to a fourth ballot.
CALLER: I -- I'm not... Rush, I'm not trying to figure out what's right and wrong. I mean, parties by the tradition of our Constitution are able to pick their own candidate over the years. It's only recently that it's become voter based and primary based. But just in Realville, if we get to that spot and Trump has more votes, more states, and more delegates, and then Cruz -- who came in second -- gets the nomination, I just think we're gonna lose all those Trump voters 'cause the scenario's never happened. You can talk about rules and delegates and Florida giving all the delegates, too. But people are just gonna be like, "Man, this party screwed me! I'm not voting." I think we're giving it to Hillary if that happens.
RUSH: I don't mean to be changing the subject on you. Mary Matalin was on one of the Sunday shows yesterday, and she said the party's gonna blow up no matter what happens here because it's been blowing up for who-knows-how-many years because the GOP has been purposefully trying to subordinate and suppress conservatives. They've not been... They've been ignoring them. They've not been paying attention. They've been sabotaging conservatives. And it's gonna blow up on 'em! Look, I know what you're asking.
We've got the poll here from NBC. The answer to your question is 62% of Republicans -- not delegates, not attendees at the convention, 62% of Republicans coast to coast -- think exactly what you think. Whoever shows up there with the most votes in these primaries should get the nomination; to hell with 1,237. By the same token, 55% of the same sample think it'd be perfectly fine if Cruz got the nomination on the second ballot. So you could say almost two-thirds agree with you. You're concerned that if Trump is denied the nomination, and he...
Look, that's another word-play game. I'm sure that got me in deep doo-doo, too. Will you keep track of all this stuff out there that people saying? Because I don't. My instincts are just telling me here. I made the point: You can't be denied something until you've won it. But the Trumpsters think that that process has begun. Look, there's a headline here. This is from Politico. This is not gonna please you Trumpists. Ready for this?
"Trump Massacred..." "Trump Massacred in Delegate Fights Once More --More than 90 delegates were up for grabs Saturday. And Ted Cruz grabbed most of them. Again." And your question still stands, Mike. I know. "Well, how can that be? Wha...? Wha...? What...?" I've been trying to explain it. You know what? You're on your own. I've explained it; I've been explaining it since September. I can't be any more crystal clear than I have been.
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RUSH: Because I can read the stitches on a curveball -- because I see the pitch before it's coming -- I'm able to tell people what Trump's strategy is gonna be. The problem is when I do that, people think I'm advocating for it. By the same token, I can tell people what Cruz's strategy is. When I do that, people think I'm advocating for it, or not advocating for it enough, or whatever. But I'm gonna persevere out there, folks, because that's the only way I know to be -- or some such drivel.
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F off Rush
Cruz didn’t give money to Carly. I think a superPAC may have, but by law, Cruz cannot have any involvement in the spending of a PAC.
At the Nuremberg trials the camp guards claimed they did nothing wrong, because everything they did was legal; they were simply following the established rules.
You and Rush don’t get it. There is a difference between moral and legal. Every time you open your mouth to lecture about “the rules” you just dig the hole you are in deeper.
Please, tell us again about how Wolfgang Von Cruz did nothing wrong, because he was “following the rules.” Please, dig the hole deeper.
“Cruz didn’t give money to Carly. I think a superPAC may have, but by law, Cruz cannot have any involvement in the spending of a PAC”.
Total b***S***
“He’s won exactly 2 of the 20 biggest states”
Candidly, us flyover savages don’t care what big Democrat states want.
We get it. We’re unimportant, backwoods yokels to fancy Manhattan types.
Well, guess what. We don’t like city slickers, either. It’s mutual disdain.
He’s a waste of good sound waves. He can go. Now he’s sarcastically pushing the stupid Cruzian line that it’s unfair that Trump has a larger share of delegates than votes won.
So by his ridiculous logic since Gore and Bush were so close in the popular vote they should have shared the White House. Rush has lost all credibility with me.
I’ve been giving him the benefit of the doubt but no more.
Trump has won his delegates from winning important contests. Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, etc. Loser Ted Cruz can make no such claim. He’s winning near voterless GOPe anointments and has only this silly distraction to counter that obvious fact.
60 million people voted for Loser Mitt Romney. 3 million people have voted for no hoper loser John Kasich. Doesn’t really matter how many near voterless delegates Ted Cruz receives. He’s still a DOA in the general loser.
You really believe that? So the PAC just randomly transferred a half a million to Carley’s PAC w/o any coordination. I have some beachfront property you may be interested in.
Rush Limbaugh went all-in for the Establishment.
He’s dead to me.
Trump’s candidacy has been most illuminating.
I think he will go third patry if the theft prevails AND HE SHOULD!. I suggest he goes to the libertarian party and united with their leadership. They select candidate May 26. Trump would be on all 50 state ballots . This assumes the rigging continues and the hand writing is on the wall. in studying the libertarian platform, https://www.lp.org/platform I see much compatibility.
Let me also say again that the ballot position is already secured in all 50 states.
I assure that Trump on that Ticket will wipe out the republicrats and has an excellent chance of beating Crooked Hilliary . The people will follow Trump , not Peibus / Rove,
In fact , I have talked myself in to hoping this happens.
We don't elect Presidents by popular vote. The Founders didn't want it that way. It can be frustrating, but they were wary of popular tidal waves (0bama, anyone?). If Trump gets it together, he won't have to worry about it. But this is America, and we elect by local rules, not national mandate.
Just today:
Mitt Romney has an interview in which he frets that Trump will win on the first ballot if the race remains a three-way contest. Just in time for a run of states in which Cruz is projected to finish third.
George Pataki in an interview says that he believes the nominee could be someone not in the race.
WAKE UP. The Cruz campaign will not benefit him. The same old establishment hacks are using Cruz for their own ends. WAKE UP!
As long as they can hold on to enough seats in the House and Senate to keep the money they get for giving in to the fascist democrats coming in they're happy. Winning the Presidency is just bonus money, not their bread and butter.
Majorities in the House and Senate are nice and increase the take a little, but look at what that amounted to as far as stopping the democrat agenda; nada, zip, nothing. The whole Republican game is to have enough power that they have to be paid off to let the democrat agenda go forward, that's it.
Ted knows the game, Kasich knows the game, and Trump is the only threat they worry about, not losing to Hillary or Bernie in November.
Ted's no babe in the woods, he's getting more than enough in return or he'd be back to his "outsider" game.
Ted knows what he is, the GOPe knows what Ted is, the whole thing has just been Ted dickering over how much the GOPe has to pay for him to drop his drawers and bend over.
Half or more of the Cruzbots know that, too, they just try and keep people from believing their own lying eyes instead of the Cruz PR trash.
Because Trump and Trumpets only know one song: Cry Me A River.
I understand the rules.
I still think they are corrupt.
paying money...isn’t that what PACs do? really hard to believe.
Stuff it El Cruzbo.
I think people are tired of your need to explain what we already know and do not like.
Go look to Rancid Preebus for a listener.
“Cruz has won exactly 2 of the 20 biggest states”
Candidly, us flyover savages don’t care what big Democrat states want.
We get it. We’re unimportant, backwoods yokels to fancy Manhattan types.
Well, guess what. We don’t like city slickers, either. It’s mutual disdain.
Sorry, I only count about 6 solid blue states in the 20 biggest states. The biggest states are where the electoral votes are. That Cruz performs so abysmally in these critical states shows what a historically bad general election candidate he is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
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