Posted on 04/20/2016 5:12:57 PM PDT by John W
What drugs is this buffoon taking?
I'm thinking that this is a presumption. Perhaps "you" and "I" are ephemera, and the continuty of self is a consequence of the physical persistence of our bodies, and in particular our brains. Well, it's a great privilege, while it lasts.
The irony of these futurists and Singularity fanatics:
* They say there is no God, but they’ll invent an all knowing, all powerful, all seeing benevolent artificial intelligence to serve in its place.
* There is no soul or heaven, but they’ll develop a technological way to separate your thought patterns from your body and upload it to a digital nirvana to live as you wish forever.
And to top it off, they say there is no moral code, but here’s the social justice warrior list of beliefs, violate it and you’re shamed or excommunicated, agree with it and you are good no matter what else you do.
As to this, I might reply more particularly. Of course now all I have is memories, not just of what I experienced, but what I THOUGHT. And in particular my thoughts of my future self. I even seem to remember certain moments in certain places where these thoughts occurred. But, it is so remote from me now! Frozen in time! I guess time is the ultimate mystery.
This scifi story is a look at a world after the Singularity, of those who were left behind and a glimpse of those who left with it.
A Post Singularity Story, a Scifi Short
http://hubpages.com/literature/A-Post-Singularity-Story
Perhaps.
But even though that is a popular thought these days, it's always seemd to me to be a logical '"category error." In other words, that which perceives is ontologically different than that which is itelf perceived. In fact, of the perceiver, nothing can really be said except that "we" experience it in the receiving of perception.
Supposedly, through deep meditation, it is possible to experience the perceiver directly, as "it" has the innate quality of self-awareness (which is apparently different from self-perception) in the absence of any stimuli (including, especially, mental).
I haven't quite reached that state, so I can't vouch for it personally. But the moment I turn into a ball of light, I'll let you know : )
Well, I am going to live forever and fortunately not in this body or as part of this world. This is just a stopping off place for a while until I go to Heaven.
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See ya there!
When we’ve been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun
We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise
Then when we first begun.
Eventually an accident or violence will get you in human form even if aging could be stopped. If uploaded, then in theory could go to the heat death of the universe.
Amen...Come Quickly Lord Jesus!
You betcha! My daughter was killed in an auto accident several years ago. Only thing that kept me and keeps me going through many dark days and nights was/is knowing that I would see her again. I’m sure that many who have lost loved ones feel the same way. Going to be a grand reunion.
It’s a neat look at one possible way it might go down. Pretty horrific. Why did the Luddites care what those in the surviving Singularity wanted, did the leaders want the internet so much they made a deal with the machines? They didn’t sound too nice.
I just read Michael O’Brian’s Voyage to Alpha Centauri, it’s pretty horrific, but it has a good religious message from a Christian/Catholic perspective.
Freegards
Well, you know, "ontological schmontological". You can't bootstrap your way into immortality. There's nothing inconsistent in the idea that we are bound to and dependent on our physical existence. In fact, one naively and ordinarily draws this conclusion. You know, that's mystery enough! What the heck is going on? I suppose that opens the oors.
A figment of his imagination since, as far as LIFE is concerned, “NOTHING is FOREVER” and there are “NO ABSOLUTES.”
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