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We Can’t Make Real Launches with an Imaginary Rocket
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2016 | John Mosby

Posted on 04/21/2016 12:22:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

There is an old adage among overworked and overstressed staffers (both congressional and military) that, “if you put off everything to the last minute, you can do everything in a minute.” This adage is actually a commentary on workloads and the pressure they produce, not about the truth of completing the tasks at hand.

Now Congress seems to be attempting to do everything in a minute by applying money in an attempt to make up for lost time. Specifically, Congress and multiple administrations should have begun – decades ago – seriously planning for replacement and deployment of the US Space Shuttle, and also planning for a pioneering effort to design, build, test, certify and deploy a heavy lift American rocket engine.

Unfortunately, they did not.

When it comes to our missile and space programs, merely throwing money, even lots of money, right now in the vain hope of making an unrealistic timetable real will not overcome the laws of inertia, physics or rocketry.

Fast forward to now. Today, we need Russian engines to get our astronauts into space, and we need a unique, highly capable Russian rocket engine – called the RD-180 – to get our most precious heavy lift payloads into proper orbits, using the American Atlas V rocket. The first problem, the problem of putting things off, will – over future decades – begin to be ameliorated by late but capable planning. The second problem, the problem of what we need right now, is susceptible to the same solution, but not without some real hard-headed planning and support by the US Government.

Part of the planning, support, and action needed for both the current and future problems includes a “square in the eye” look at reality. We must (and the word is “must” not “should”) maintain the leading edge in space exploration and innovation. We need to ask ourselves if our actions over the past decade have really allowed us to maintain that edge. That said, America should not and cannot try to hurry the critical process of getting a safe, reliable, well-designed, methodically developed, exhaustively tested, properly certified (no shortcut waivers) and deployed American heavy lift rocket engine. Our most precious and irreplaceable cargos – satellites of special importance supporting vital US national security priorities and future space exploration – depend on that process being thorough.

That means that we will continue to need the RD-180 engines and the Atlas rockets for the immediate future. Perhaps we will need it even another decade. Rushing it out the door of our active inventory is very likely a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

So, what is Congress doing? In a bizarre twist, they seem intent on sweeping or shuffling their missteps under the rug, simultaneously trying to cut off American access to Russian-made engines (which are one-of-a-kind and which presently work well to place American payloads in orbit), while also pretending that they can compel the US Air Force to cover past congressional errors. In effect, they are now demanding that the US Air Force use a largely non-existent American heavy lift engine that will, in Congress’ view, materialize magically because they say “do it.”

Of course development of a truly American engine should continue - and rapidly. But, putting heavy high-priority payloads into space requires much more than just a capable engine; it requires a complete, thoroughly reliable, and proven system. The integral operation of the proper engine with all the other myriad of missile subsystems is critical to a platform upon which we can place our future heavy-lift space requirements.

Discarding a proven system now for the promise of a replacement system whenever runs the risk of forfeiting America’s leading edge to other World Players who are eager, willing, and increasingly able to challenge our long and hard-fought leadership in space.

This approach of sidelining a proven system for the elusive promise of something just as good...but, not available now is not worthy of an informed and effective Congress. They know – or should know – that a heavy lift American rocket engine incorporated into a proven and reliable system remains years or more away. No matter whom they want to see win the competition for such an engine, or who they want to block from support, this just will not happen within a timeframe that does not risk our current ability to deploy heavy payloads into space.

The unfortunate reality is that research, design, testing and successful deployment of complex aerospace platforms dedicated to national defense do not come to life overnight – any student of modern defense acquisition and procurement knows this.

How much clearer does it need to be than words from the US Air Force Secretary – and credible outside experts – who last month indicated it cannot be done, as well as should not be done and that the ill-advised attempt will waste billions. The Wall Street Journal has reported that an independent panel drew conclusions that “stressed that a slower schedule for deploying a domestic replacement, stretching through 2025, would be less risky and in the end probably save taxpayers billions of dollars.”

So, when one sees legislation from both chambers of Congress, suggesting that something that will take several years (perhaps approaching a decade - hopefully not more) must be done in a couple of years, certain questions must be asked. At a cost some now put north of five billion dollars over projections, what the heck is going on? Why are elected Congressional leaders in a hasty rush to block use of the RD-180 rocket engines, the engines we have so successfully used for so many years, and to replace them by 2019? The answer is because they believe the false adage that we can put off everything to the last minute and still do everything in a minute. They have the money (and seem to think it comes in endless supply) and they wrongly think that, with enough money, they can make time stand still. They can’t.

Senator Richard Shelby has suggested that this scheme is designed to help one rocket company over another, and said so in another Wall Street Journal piece on February 22, 2016. Senator John McCain claims it is because the engines are of Russian design and their use aids and abets the Putin regime. But whatever the reasoning, it is hurting the American taxpayer – and could imperil our country’s national security.

A simple recommendation emerges: Let’s stop these preoccupied folks in Congress from crossing the American taxpayer and look anew at the reality. Let’s continue to get our satellites into orbit safely and reliably on the Atlas V’s with RD-180 engines, and let’s continue to develop a proper, reasoned and methodical march to an American engine that frankly may be even better, within a realistic timeframe. That, it seems, is the right answer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
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1 posted on 04/21/2016 12:22:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

At least NASA has Muslim outreach.


2 posted on 04/21/2016 12:25:49 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article.

Retired after 45 years in aerospace and considerable experience with the RD180’s.

NASA quote from the 60’s:

“There are no rewards for on-time failures!”

I printed that sign many times, but never posted due to potential bad reactions from the customer.


3 posted on 04/21/2016 12:29:08 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Yeah thanks to that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


4 posted on 04/21/2016 12:29:10 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Obviously the author has not studied enough economics.


5 posted on 04/21/2016 12:33:24 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Kaslin

Apparently the author of this article isn’t aware of SpaceX.

Humans are currently only flying using entirely Russian equipment (Soyuz). For heavy lift Falcon 9 is currently flying, and Falcon Heavy (with more payload than any Atlas version, 53,000 kg to LEO) will fly this fall.

SpaceX is also working on a manned system, which should be available in a couple more years.


6 posted on 04/21/2016 12:34:16 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cruz or Trump '16! JUST NOT A DEM!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Or the new Russian new tech system which puts all of those to shame and should be flying at about 2030.


7 posted on 04/21/2016 12:43:03 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Kaslin

Imagine where we would be now, had the US invested in the technology research for an electromagnetic sled launch system back in 1990’s or 2000’s

I am thinking an electro magnetic rail to get the sled carrying a payload up to sub-mach speed, launch with air breathing engines to reach 6 miles up, and then launch the payload off the sled with regular but smaller rockets. Sled then flies and returns to earth for re-use.


8 posted on 04/21/2016 12:50:28 PM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: PIF

“Or the new Russian new tech system which puts all of those to shame and should be flying at about 2030.”

The Russian effort is typical of their inferiority complex, in that they always have to build the “biggest” of whatever it is.

SpaceX will kill them (and the rest of the space industry) with the reusable booster technology used in both Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy.

53 tons to LEO is plenty to build the modular orbit-only nuclear-powered interplanetary ships we ought to be building...


9 posted on 04/21/2016 12:52:39 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cruz or Trump '16! JUST NOT A DEM!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Jesus do we not have the plans for the engines in the Saturn v and 1b ?


10 posted on 04/21/2016 1:00:59 PM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Kaslin

Russia has stolen so many designs from us, why not just start building the RD-180’s here and tell Putin to bite me if he complains?


11 posted on 04/21/2016 1:01:57 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When judges act like whores, they can hardly expect to be treated like nuns.")
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To: Kozak

Nope, we don’t. Jeff Bezos had to recover one from the bottom of the ocean to assist Rocketdyne in recreating the F1.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the-monstrous-f-1-moon-rocket-back-to-life/


12 posted on 04/21/2016 1:07:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Kaslin
Maybe we should just ask Ted Cruz about all of this.

Ted Cruz is Chairman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Space, Science, and Competitiveness. The Subcommittee's jurisdiction includes oversight of NASA, the National Science Foundation, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and the Office of Science and Technology Policy. For the 111th Congress, the Subcommittee gained additional jurisdiction on science matters from the former United States Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Science, Technology, and Innovation.

13 posted on 04/21/2016 1:10:16 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Russian effort is 150 tons or more. Used to have the link - think it is called the Fenix or similar - could be the overall project name.

Agree we need to build something like the original Project Orion ships once the steering problem is solved and we can find someone willing to design and build very small nukes - the last designer quit because of his fear that his creations would be used as weapons instead of ship power.


14 posted on 04/21/2016 1:17:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Spktyr

Classic government F-ing job.
3 of the Saturn V’s did not go to space. Not a single engine left? No plans? No microfilm? How many Billions did we spend ( when Billion was A LOT of money) on those?


15 posted on 04/21/2016 1:45:53 PM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Spktyr
Nope, we don’t. Jeff Bezos had to recover one from the bottom of the ocean to assist Rocketdyne in recreating the F1.

I've read that ARS Technica article before. It states on the first page that every scrap of information on the Saturn V - including the Rocketdyne F1 plans - is still on file.

Given modern manufacturing processes, it was decided that creating a modern, accurate 3-D scan of every component of the F1 engine would be the necessary path towards reviving that design. A big, expensive project, but much more beneficial than transcribing blueprints.

16 posted on 04/21/2016 2:16:35 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Kozak

Read the article linked at post #12. You’ll see one or two related articles linked at that site, regarding the F-1b engine. Interesting stuff.


17 posted on 04/21/2016 2:18:31 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Kozak

We kept the plans and the spare engines. What we didn’t keep is the knowledge base of *why* they were built that way - the rationale for the design decisions as it were - and the skills to build an exact copy. We also didn’t keep the jigs, fixtures and machinery needed to make more - as the article points out, even the test stands were repurposed beyond the ability to reuse.

Without those, what you have is a bunch of useless paper. And that’s more or less what we had.


18 posted on 04/21/2016 2:35:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Charles Martel

See my immediately prior post - Pantex here in Texas recently ran into the same problem when attempting to overhaul some of America’s older nuclear warheads. Yes, they had all the plans and manuals on hand, but none of the staff could figure out how to refurbish the units let alone build another one from parts. There were several news articles on it at the time; several retired engineers had to be coaxed to come back in and train current workers.


19 posted on 04/21/2016 2:43:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Kaslin

What did the Atlas have for engines before the RD-180? Weren’t they American built?

What happened?


20 posted on 04/21/2016 7:47:30 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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