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All but the clinch: Trump, Clinton look to extend delegate lead
Fox News ^ | Apr. 26, 2016 | Fox News

Posted on 04/26/2016 1:16:56 PM PDT by Innovative

By the end of the night, Super Tuesday III could be all but the clinch for Hillary Clinton -- while Donald Trump could be poised to turn the Ted Cruz-John Kasich alliance from a potential game-changer into a Hail Mary.

Up for grabs Tuesday are delegates in Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Maryland, Delaware and Connecticut – with Pennsylvania the biggest prize. Polls close at 8 p.m. ET in all five states.

Democrats are competing for 384 delegates in Tuesday's contests, while Republicans have 118 up for grabs (not counting the 54 unbound delegates in Pennsylvania).

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; clinton; cruz; election2016; kasich; newyork; presidentdonaldtrump; trump
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It should be an interesting day, hope it ends well too.
1 posted on 04/26/2016 1:16:56 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

CRUZ tonight will be mathematically eliminated from the 1st ballot nomination. If that is the case, then CRUZ should surrender and support TRUMP as the leader to get the nomination!

of course, Ted should only do this if his true intentions were to unite the party against the Democrats in the run up to November.


2 posted on 04/26/2016 1:26:18 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Innovative
Cruz has spent all his money, after tonight Ted will be scheming a way to sell him stopping Trump

Kasich can live on nothing and will spend no money campaigning.

Even though Kasich has only won one state I respect him a ton more.

Ted Cruz everyday is losing it, getting into with a Trump supporter last night on stealing delegates.

Last Tuesday he blamed the Media, his payroll and travel expenses must be killing him.

No one will bail him out like his PAC did for Carly. Look for the staff to start bailing.

3 posted on 04/26/2016 1:28:07 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

“Even though Kasich has only won one state I respect him a ton more.”

Why?


4 posted on 04/26/2016 1:36:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: scooby321

I don’t respect John Kasick at all.


5 posted on 04/26/2016 1:42:41 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Innovative

RUSH: Now, as for what’s happening today, keeping today in perspective, it’s gonna be a great day for Trump. You got voters in Connecticut, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware, and Pennsylvania. So 172 delegates will be accounted for today. Trump is expected to win all five of these primaries.

He’s expected to win between 98 and 123 of the 172 delegates at stake. But all of this is expected — none of this is a surprise — and winning these delegates is not going to add or increase Trump’s chances of wrapping up the nomination. All of the projections people are making of total delegate count going into Indiana and then going into California, already include these. Now, I’m not trying to tamp down spirit today. I’m just trying to keep everything in perspective for you.

Whatever happens today has already been calculated in delegate projections. It’s already been factored, and it’s all based on polling data, and it’s probably true. Trump’s gonna sweep these five primary states. He’s gonna get these delegates, between 98 and 123. They are already accounted for. In other words, delegates that Trump wins today are not surprise delegates nobody expected to get added to the list. They’re already in everybody’s lists. So what it means is that, after today, the nomination is actually going to be determined by the 10 primaries left after today.

There are only 10 remaining after we finish these five today — and of those 10, Indiana is the focus, and Indiana is next week. And there’s drama there, because nobody knows whether Trump or Cruz is going to win Indiana. And Kasich is a wild card and is even more sporadic and wild cardish now. I mean, nobody can keep track of what he’s doing or saying. One moment he doesn’t want people to vote for him; the next moment he says he does want people to vote for him. He’s vetting vice presidential nominees.

We have this nonaggression pact that Kasich and Cruz have supposedly signed, but it’s already beginning to fray. But Scott Rasmussen says, “There is one ironic footnote to the Northeastern Primary. The very process that Trump claims is rigged will once again work to his benefit. His share of the delegates won on Tuesday will almost certainly exceed his share of the vote. Up to this point, Trump has earned 28% more delegates than his pro rata share of the vote would deem appropriate,” such, as an example, New York.

Trump got 60% of the vote and 95% of the delegates. He got many more delegates than you would think proportionate to the votes. So it works both ways. Now, of the 172 delegates that are available today, 118 of them will be formally pledged to a candidate on the first ballot, and it doesn’t matter who these delegates end up being. We don’t know who they are. These delegates, some of them may have been chosen. These states may have had their convention; some of them may have not. We don’t know who the delegates are.

It doesn’t matter who they are, doesn’t matter what the delegates think; 118 of them are formally pledged to a candidate on the first ballot. Trump should win between 98 and 106 of these. So, again, not to tamp down anybody’s spirit today, but what’s on tap today has already been factored into everybody’s projections. Trump’s expected to sweep big, and it’s relevant in the sense that it could create even more momentum. I mean, it’s not good when you have five losses in a row like Cruz and Kasich are gonna experience today. But at the same time, it doesn’t constitute anything today happening that’s unexpected. So no surprises.

This is the irony that Scott Rasmussen was talking about:

“When you add it all up, Trump is likely to win less than 50% of the vote on Tuesday, but end up with between 57% and 72% of the delegates,” and nobody’s gonna complain because that’s the rules. That’s the way it works out. Nobody’s whining about it. It’s just the way it happens. But it’s not going to tell us any more than we already know. Not a lot, because all of this is already factored in.

However, I did say — and I will say it again, talked about it yesterday — narratives, narratives have replaced news.

We don’t have news anymore; we have narratives, we have templates, we have stories. And so pro-Trump media is gonna treat this tonight like it is just the greatest thing, it’s manna from heaven, and it’s more unexpected, and it’s Trump slam dunk and it’s gonna be treated that way.

My only point, I’m trying to help you keep perspective here. That’s all. I’m not diminishing, suppressing anything. You know, I’m the mayor of Realville here, and that means I am Mr. Literal. Don’t be offended. It’s quite the exact opposite. I’m assuming that you’re up to speed on all this stuff, and understand that we got 10 left after today, and I can see where you get offended. You’re hearing me say your state doesn’t count and 10 states yet to vote do count more. Not saying that. It’s just what’s gonna happen in Pennsylvania is largely known, and the only surprise will be if what everybody think’s is gonna happen doesn’t. And we’ll find out.

We’ll talk tomorrow, see if there’s any upset applecart, but I’ll bet there probably isn’t going to be.


6 posted on 04/26/2016 1:53:40 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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You forgot the part where sCruz will be mathematically eliminated from the first ballot tonight and, if he stays in, shows he is less interested in America and more interested in sliming his way into the general election, which he’ll lose in a heartbeat to Hitlery.


7 posted on 04/26/2016 2:01:58 PM PDT by dware (I don't care what bathroom they use, as long as it's in the nuthouse, where they belong)
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To: dware

You forget that this is an election for President. And it doesn’t matter if Cruz is mathematically eliminated, the election process is not over until someone gets to 1237, OR if not that, it goes to Convention.

So you can scream and cry all you want, but considering the very big differences between the current candidates running for the Republican ticket and that Trump has not received 50% of the vote, there’s still a good 50% that DON’T want him as a candidate and want another choice.

Despite what the lying media feeds us, I believe it is NOT over and Trump has NOT won this and he should not be given it, just because he is ahead at this point. You don’t stop a football game, after the 3rd quarter, just because one team is ahead and then award that team the win. It doesn’t work that way, no matter how much you try and twist reality.


8 posted on 04/26/2016 2:08:42 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: Lucky9teen
t doesn’t matter if Cruz is mathematically eliminated,

Clearly an anti-American sCruzball. Such a shame you sCruzers hate America so much, you gotta win using slimeball tactics that will only make sCruz the weaker candidate. But hey, least you get to have your Hitlery victory party, right?

9 posted on 04/26/2016 2:21:30 PM PDT by dware (I don't care what bathroom they use, as long as it's in the nuthouse, where they belong)
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To: Lucky9teen

Rush has gone into total dick-mode.

“He’s expected to win between 98 and 123 of the 172 delegates at stake. But all of this is expected — none of this is a surprise — and winning these delegates is not going to add or increase Trump’s chances of wrapping up the nomination. All of the projections people are making of total delegate count going into Indiana and then going into California, already include these. Now, I’m not trying to tamp down spirit today. I’m just trying to keep everything in perspective for you.”


10 posted on 04/26/2016 2:26:54 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Lucky9teen

“Despite what the lying media feeds us, I believe it is NOT over and Trump has NOT won this and he should not be given it, just because he is ahead at this point. You don’t stop a football game, after the 3rd quarter, just because one team is ahead and then award that team the win. It doesn’t work that way, no matter how much you try and twist reality”

Who is asking Trump be “given” anything! It’s a discussion about math and probabilities. Everyone knows that delegates have to actually vote on the floor. There is no objection to that nor is it of controversy. No one is asking for anything different.

It’s a discussion about who is in the lead with the VOTERS,,you know, the actual PEOPLE that the elitist establishment worshippers and Cruz camp want to pretend simply don’t matter? Those people,,and it does matter.

Sorry if that little victory happiness is pooping on your pro-Cruz pro-Establishment parade.

Carry one.


11 posted on 04/26/2016 2:29:33 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: scooby321

Why do you respect KSick? Because he’s being honest about wanting the Republican Party to nominate a candidate the voters have rejected?


12 posted on 04/26/2016 2:47:25 PM PDT by grania
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To: dware

I laugh at you


13 posted on 04/26/2016 3:07:51 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: Lucky9teen

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/26/exit-polls-for/

Exit Poll Roundup: GOP voters say give the nomination to delegate leader


14 posted on 04/26/2016 3:12:07 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Lucky9teen

Well Rush, in these states everyone gets to participate unlike Colorado for example.


15 posted on 04/26/2016 3:12:21 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: austinaero

Are you really asking that question or are you being sarcastic?

Saying Cruz should drop out now and get behind Trump, is LITERALLY giving it all to Trump. Delegates won’t matter, at that point.

And yes, voters DO matter to Cruz, are you retarded? Why do you think he is traveling to every state, almost every county to meet with VOTERS? Hello? You do realize actual citizens, actual voters, make up who is a delegate, right? You do understand that people who run to be a delegate are not establishment people, right?

Or have you bought in, hook, line and sinker, to all the lies and myths of our 236 year old delegate primary/caucus process?

Dude, pick up a book, or just Google it, and do some research for Pete’s sake. You look pretty foolish touting the same tired FALSE lines from Mr. Art of the Deal.


16 posted on 04/26/2016 3:13:28 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: Lucky9teen

Come on Rush and anybody else pushing this lie.

Nobody is upset when the winner wins more delegates. Almost every election and vote is eventually winner take all. Mitt Romney is not President of the few states he won.

Most people ARE upset when the loser wins more delegates. There aren’t any Loser Take All states. Well, except for Colorado.


17 posted on 04/26/2016 3:19:43 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: Innovative

Just to remind everyone, if Cruz and Ka sick doesn’t go home after tonight:

Ted Cruz and John Kasich have actually conspired to commit a federal crime by denying the American people the right to vote. They announced that they will each step aside in one or more states to try to block Trump from achieving the nomination. Kasich is trying to defeat the democratic process because the establishment hates Cruz intensely and Trump to a lesser degree. Cruz and Kasich are now conspiring to steal delegates after a first ballot; nullifying the entire right to vote in the primaries, which is a federal crime. They are effectively saying that the Democratic process is unfair because the people are electing someone who the establishment does not approve of, or in other words — not them. Neither one of these politicians has a legitimate delegate base to seek the nomination. Their solution is to nullify the people’s choice and cheat them at the convention, committing voter fraud.

Let’s make this clear. They will justify themselves by writing a rule and claiming their actions are legal. There is a small problem they do not address — the Supremacy Clause in the Constitution. The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that under the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land. No rule passed by the delegates for the convention can supersede the constitution. Relying on any rule to circumvent the right to vote is a federal crime. They can write a rule and behead the loser as in some Mayan sports game, but that does not make it constitutional.

The Supreme Court has long ago recognized that the “right to vote” for federal offices is among the rights secured by Article I, Sections 2 and 4, of the Constitution, which is protected by Title 18 Section 241. United States v. Classic, 313 U.S. 299 (1941); Ex parte Yarborough, 110 U.S. 651 (1884). This statute was enacted following the Civil War and was intended to address efforts to deprive the newly emancipated slaves of the basic rights of citizenship, such as the right to vote. Therefore, we cannot find any other law whose purpose is to further criminalize exactly what Cruz and Kasich plan to do.

The civil rights statute, 18 U.S.C. § 241, has been interpreted to include any effort to derogate any right that flows from the Constitution or from federal law. Section 241 has been an important statutory tool in election crime prosecutions. It was used to break up the South’s intent to deprive blacks of their civil rights. Initially, this statute only applied to schemes intended to corrupt elections for federal office, which is exactly on point with the statements of Cruz and Kasich.

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured –

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

18 U.S.C. § 241

This statue 18 U.S.C. § 241 has recently been applied successfully to non-federal elections as well when that state action was a necessary feature of the fraud. This state action requirement can be met not only by the participation of poll officials and notaries public, but by activities of persons who clothe themselves with the appearance of state authority, e.g., with uniforms, credentials, and badges. Williams v. United States, 341 U.S. 97 (1951).

Cruz and Kasich have openly stated that they are conspiring together to rig the election and defraud the majority of the people out of their right to vote for Trump. The Republicans can make rules that the delegates are not bound after the first ballot, but that has never been reviewed by the Supreme Court. Once you create a “right to vote” in the primary, to nullify that “right to vote” would logically violate 18 U.S.C. § 241.

On one side, we have Hillary who clearly should be criminally prosecuted, but won’t because the Democrats control the prosecution process. On the other side, we have the two remaining Republican candidates, who stand no chance whatsoever of winning, conspiring together to deprive the people of the “right to vote”, which is also a felony. You have to admit, this is the craziest election since Andrew Jackson.

Categories: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
Tags: Creative Destruction, Cruz, Kasich, Supremacy Clause, Trump

« 60,000 People Change Parties in Pennsylvania to Vote for Trump


18 posted on 04/26/2016 3:30:31 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Lucky9teen

“And yes, voters DO matter to Cruz, are you retarded?””You do understand that people who run to be a delegate are not establishment people, right?”

I don’t think austinaero is retarded. Why do you think that none of the people who run to be a delegate are not establishment people? Just because it is local does not mean the process isn’t run by the establishment. Establishment can be local or national.

Marco Rubio rose from one position to the next in Florida and to the Senate, because at every step in his journey, he was lifted up by establishment GOP.


19 posted on 04/26/2016 3:38:45 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: MaxistheBest

Who do you think the delegates to the convention are? Those will be the guys and gals in the trenches. The delegates are elected. Yes, I know we have super delegates, the elected and party officials, and, yes, I guess we can call them the “establishment.” But chances are the delegates are the people who’ve been working hard in their state, who aren’t well known, who will in many cases be part of the grassroots of the party.

So, to those who are crying crocodile tears over the possibility that these delegates might actually get to do what they’re supposed to do — gasp! — vote for the nominee, I say, calm down. I, for one, definitely want those delegates playing a role, and not just being part of a big television show people don’t watch anymore. I particularly want them playing a role if no candidate — that means you, Donald — doesn’t get the 1237 delegates necessary to claim the nomination outright.

Those 1237 delegates represent a majority of the total 2472 at the convention. If no one gets a majority — even if Donald manages a good plurality — then, think about what that says. It says a majority of the Republican electorate do not want Trump. Let me repeat that: if Trump doesn’t get a majority of the delegates going in to the convention, the majority of GOP voters DO. NOT. WANT. HIM.

So those who advocate handing him the crown anyway — maybe they’re the real members of The Establishment.

If there’s no majority of delegates in any candidate’s corner, then, yes, let the delegates duke it out, let them bargain, let them hear arguments and actually make a decision at the convention. That’s what they’re chosen/elected to do. That’s not The Establishment stealing the vote. It’s the grassroots affirming what voters want — NOT TRUMP.


20 posted on 04/26/2016 3:55:42 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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