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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

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To: cornfedcowboy

I hate to break this to you, but Cruz can’t win a general election, on his best day. Being the “most conservative” is not a claim that wins you a national election. It may win you a conservative district or a conservative state, but it won’t win you a national election... not in and of itself.

Wake up, the Republican party, with the sole exception of a sitting war time president, and even then couldn’t win by 2.5% of the vote, has not won the popular vote for president in 28 years. And in every single one of those elections, the Republican was the most conservative candidate on the ballot. Yes, they may not been as conservative as most folks here would like but given the choice on election day they were always the more conservative option, and guess what? They lost.

This idea that the “most conservative” guy can win a national election, with that being their sole credential is idiotic. Yes, Reagan was conservative, but he also had presence, character, charm and wit.. He didn’t run around in 1980 or 1984 saying “I’m the most conservative guy”.... If that’s all you got as your argument you lose a national election.

Cruz cant win in the primary, among republican, and yes even among self identified conservative voters, Cruz can’t win. Cruz backers laid that whole idiotic argument that Trump can only win open primaries... Yet he just took 6 primaries by about 60% all in closed primary states, and states that represent 25% of the US population.

Cruz can’t win a general election, and never could. Hate to be the bearer of that reality to you, but that’s the stone cold truth. Cruz in a general is basically another Rovesque type of election where a handful of states are declared the battleground and each side prays they have the better GOTV.... that’s not how you grow and build a party and it sure isn’t any way to work for a win. That model concedes your weakness out of the gate and if thats the best a candidate has to try to win, they are a pathetically weak candidate.


381 posted on 04/28/2016 6:43:04 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Smokin' Joe

Duh.

The duh is what’s going on between your ears. Get a freakin’ life.


382 posted on 04/28/2016 6:43:31 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: Night Hides Not

I have been on FR since 2007 and am a Trump supporter. What you are conveniently forgetting is that a lot of this anger and “language” started with the Cruz supporters. At first, I tried to engage them on an intellectual level, only to be referred to as a “cultist”, “trumptard”, “trumpanzee”, etc. I soon found out that there is no realistic way to have a substantive discussion with a large majority of them. You wonder why FR Trump supporters are this way? Look no further to a large majority of FR Cruz supporters.


383 posted on 04/28/2016 6:44:37 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Well, we know his back story..."If I only had a ..."
384 posted on 04/28/2016 6:45:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: jpsb

jp, Rick Wilson was never on Cruz’ team. He’s in his own universe. He’s GOPe to the max. But nice try.


385 posted on 04/28/2016 6:45:12 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote went to Cruz.)
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To: chae

Trump has made securing the border and repatriating illegals the center piece of his campaign. If elected he will have a mandate to do just that. I am not at all worried that a president Trump would not secure the border (build the wall where appropriate) and enforce existing immigration law (deport). In fact he is the only candidate, IMHO, who would do both.


386 posted on 04/28/2016 6:45:13 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Bite me.


387 posted on 04/28/2016 6:46:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: stratboy

Yeah, it wasn’t a Cruz supporter who threatened to kill my dogs.


388 posted on 04/28/2016 6:47:28 AM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: jpsb

Thank you so much for posting that.


389 posted on 04/28/2016 6:47:43 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: jpsb

That’s what he says today, but not so long ago, self-deportation was too mean.
He changes his stance on abortion and healthcare from one day to the next and you think he’s not going to change at all on this?


390 posted on 04/28/2016 6:48:46 AM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: Night Hides Not

Not all are Cruzers but a lot of them are. I only posted that to demonstrate that we Trumpers take way more and way nastier incoming then Cruz supporters.


391 posted on 04/28/2016 6:50:26 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Neil E. Wright

You are pure, unadulterated evil. Satan calls you his friend. Your stench of malignance is breath-stealing and when you are photographed, a demon appears in the frame. You eat small children, cannibalistically, and you have no redeeming features. I am ashamed you were ever a member of the forum. Nothing you say is true, ever, and yet you manage to write it with triteness and a certain jejune character. Now that you are gone, we can all celebrate, with gusto, for now we are whole and complete.


392 posted on 04/28/2016 6:50:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: chae
Yeah, it wasn’t a Cruz supporter who threatened to kill my dogs.

Yes it was!

At the time, I supported Cruz!

393 posted on 04/28/2016 6:51:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Would you surrender your principles to retain your friends?

I'd surrender my principles to get a free Snickers bar.

394 posted on 04/28/2016 6:52:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

#Nevertrump = Hillary Clinton.


395 posted on 04/28/2016 6:53:21 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: chae

Well he is the only one that might (secure border, deport) so I am willing to take the chance.


396 posted on 04/28/2016 6:53:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: novemberslady

YW


397 posted on 04/28/2016 6:54:08 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Neil E. Wright

You’ve been here a long, long time, since 1997 — a year longer than me.

Hope you don’t get banned for your post ... but Jim has clearly said that trashing Trump and saying you won’t vote for him will get you banned.

FWIW, I’m looking forward to FR *after* the election is behind us. It should become a much more genial place, like it used to be before this election cycle’s primaries.


398 posted on 04/28/2016 6:56:01 AM PDT by Theo (No tagline for now.)
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To: Lazamataz

That wasn’t a Baby Ruth floating in the pool...


399 posted on 04/28/2016 6:58:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: progunner

Maybe you’ll like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apXSU8F8zWs


400 posted on 04/28/2016 6:59:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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