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To: ROCKLOBSTER
-- Faggot Graham now up, (mute) nobody cares what he says either. --

He has a better rebuttal to Trump, by far than Cruz does. Says that the middle east trouble is due to pulling out, not to getting in, and points to Obama's "pull out" policy.

Says Hillary will win with women and Hispanics because Trump is so harsh and insulting to women and foreigners. Trump is the cult of the strongman.

Graham does not see the party coalescing around Trump. Embracing Trump destroys conservatism, Trump's immigration and woman and foreign policy grounds. Trump's immigration policy is hateful. Do not buy isolationism.

I think reading the transcript on Graham is a concise illumination of what Trump is up against. Graham is an unapologetic globalist. Others are too (e.g., Cornyn) but will hide their animosity and dirks as they pretend to accept Trump.

145 posted on 05/01/2016 7:53:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
the middle east trouble is due to pulling out, not to getting in, and points to Obama's "pull out" policy.

No, things were better for non-moslems under the dictators, He's right about Obama.

148 posted on 05/01/2016 8:00:42 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be President!)
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Turns out I did not miss Manafort. He is more or less responding by giving Trump's positions. Hillary is part of the mess. Manafort says that Trump is committed to undoing the gridlock in Washington, and will do that by bringing in outsiders.

A decent segment, although I distracted myself for part of it by reading about court goings on with Schlafley's Eagle Forum.

153 posted on 05/01/2016 8:05:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Graham ran for President - voters SPOKE loud and clear about him.

...and THE PEOPLE of the United States told Graham he represented 3% of us... Well, 3% of Republicans - one and a half percent of the population... 97% of Americans rejected Graham... Does “National Review’ get that? Can ‘elite’ conservatives do math?

Graham and his fellow conservative ELITES in DC should leave the GOP and form their own party. They’ve got the 3% down cold.


155 posted on 05/01/2016 8:06:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Imagine the shrieking MSM outrage if Trump supporters had tried to flip a car... David French)
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To: Cboldt
He has a better rebuttal to Trump, by far than Cruz does.

They are RATaganda talking points. I hear the RATs throwing out the same fax memo in the discussion panel. The "women problem" is their main trump card.

Trump is so harsh and insulting to women

Only certain women, and what's wrong with that, what about their precious equal rights? They should be able to take it. They can't have it both ways.

It's a fake perception fabricated by the RATs and RINOs.

and foreigners.

Another lie. He opposes job-stealing illegal invaders and the murdering-rapists from Bassackwardstan.

Trump is the cult of the strongman.

Good, we need that.

Embracing Trump destroys conservatism

His is the most conservative message I've heard in years.

Trump's immigration policy is hateful.

He brought this issue to the forefront, nobody else would be talking about it. The criminal invaders, murdering rapists and the Mexican government desperately deserve our scorn, disgust and pushback.

Do not buy isolationism.

Make them reimburse us.

They can provide their own troops to hold the ground we blow up. We need the jobs here making bombs to sell them.

164 posted on 05/01/2016 8:20:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be President!)
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To: Cboldt
He has a better rebuttal to Trump, by far than Cruz does. Says that the middle east trouble is due to pulling out, not to getting in, and points to Obama's "pull out" policy.

So why didn't Bush 43 get a SOFA in place before he left? Why didn't Bush speak out forcefully when Obama pulled out? Where were all the Reps screaming for us to leave a residual force in Iraq? Answer: The American people wanted us out and the politicians were not going to oppose it.

Graham and the neocons supported the take down of Gaddafi. Graham supported arming the Syrian rebels despite not knowing who they really were. He supported no-fly zones in Syria risking a confrontation with the Russians.

I supported going into Iraq. Much of the problem was due to the way the first Gulf War ended under Bush 41. Scowcroft and Powell failed to destroy Iraq's armed forces in Kuwait when they had the chance. We could have taken Saddam out then when he set fire to the oil wells in Kuwait.

The stated reason we didn't take down Saddam was that it was not part of mission of the massive international coalition we had put in place to oust the Iraqis from Kuwait. However, the Saudis wanted us to take out Saddam as part of our agreement with them to use their territory to launch our attacks. We stopped when we had victory within our grasp. The truce/ceasefire agreement we had with Iraq set the stage for the second Gulf War.

Graham is an unapologetic globalist.

It goes beyond "globalism." The political class is bought and paid for by their corporate paymasters and special interests. American interests and workers are secondary if they are considered at all. In the meantime our military is being devastated and worn out. The number of tours that the military must spend in the war zones is unsustainable. It is enervating and discouraging. And then the politicians squander all the sacrifices that have been made in blood and treasure. This is how great powers decline and fall.

165 posted on 05/01/2016 8:20:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cboldt
Graham is an unapologetic globalist.

I used to be one, too, but I've been taught by events of this past decade or two. We should have just whacked Saddam rather than take out the whole country.

As in, "We don't care if you need to mistreat your people when they're fanatic head chopping followers of Mad Mo, but mess with the U.S. and Hell will be in your face! And if you mess with our friends, well Hells a-comin', too!!"

And then if it still happens, less talk, more rock! NEVER explain and negotiate, just do it.

That to me is the best, Teddy Roosevelt-esque, foreign policy we can have.

193 posted on 05/01/2016 9:11:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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