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What I Want for All Moms on Mother’s Day: A Universal Basic Income
Medium.com ^ | 5/11/2016 | Anna Oman

Posted on 05/11/2016 12:32:23 PM PDT by GilGil

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To: GilGil

A basic income for all would raise prices to the point that that basic income would be essentially 0 in value when the household income’s buying power is compared with what it was before the advent of that basic income.


61 posted on 05/11/2016 1:58:45 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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To: GilGil
A ferengi rebuttal
62 posted on 05/11/2016 2:01:25 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I dunno about Milton Friedman being on the right. He always struck me as a guy like Will Rogers. A leftist with a down-home presentation and a lot of natural ability for cracking jokes. I think of Friedman as a conservative-leaning Keynesian. In his day, that was saying a lot for him, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he was an Austrian.


63 posted on 05/11/2016 2:03:25 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It would be added to, not replace, all the payments and allowances and credits now extant. Those stay at home moms, the ones who want this type of stipend would exult in the new ability to pay for an abortion or three every year and drink a lot more sodas or wine and do a lot more drugs.


64 posted on 05/11/2016 2:03:51 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
The folks at Plymouth Colony tried this. It did not end well.

But at least they tried. And it wasn't really their fault, they just didn't have the right people in charge. We have intelligent, compassionate people in charge now and we have lots of money (they were pretty poor back then) so, why not? Lets give it a try. If it doesn't work out at least we can say we tried.
65 posted on 05/11/2016 2:05:16 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine. Don't like it? Come and take it.)
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To: SleepySimon

You are correct in the sense that everyone has plowed all of this effort and research into building the technology, and nobody has invested much time thinking about the societal fallout. When this wave hits a MAJOR re-engineering of society is going to become necessary.

Perhaps the massive automation will be capable of producing goods so cheaply they can almost be given away free?


66 posted on 05/11/2016 2:05:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: arthurus

You sound like my uncle whose #1 complaint in life was that there was no legal mechanism to force his ex-wife to actually spend his child support payments ON THE CHILD.


67 posted on 05/11/2016 2:08:50 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GilGil

They never talk about who pays for it or the rampant inflation that it causes.


68 posted on 05/11/2016 2:09:02 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Garth Tater

I am assuming sarcasm. :-)


69 posted on 05/11/2016 2:31:46 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: GilGil
if everyone was guaranteed healthcare and an income floor. People would still pursue their calling in life.

That is Marx's theory in a nutshell. We're supposed to believe that everyone would just jump out of bed every morning eager to contribute their little light to the collective beacon.

And maybe they would. If their little light was equipment manager for the Swedish Bikini Team. But I doubt there are many people who salivate at the thought of garbage collection or unclogging toilets. So who does THOSE jobs?

Well, it's simple. The kommisars determine what jobs need to be done -- for the good of the collective, of course -- and who is best suited to do them. And before you can say "Leon Trotsky," you're snaking out a floor drain for a crummy two-room flat and a drunken proctologist who takes too great a delight in his work.

70 posted on 05/11/2016 2:40:11 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: GilGil

Imagine if there was some way to just tax liberals and leftists for their schemes. They can have their socialized medicine, their welfare, their free food and gas, you name it. But they, and only they, have to pay for every bit of it. No credit, no loans, to pay for any of it.


71 posted on 05/11/2016 3:21:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: GilGil

She says everyone. Does that include the entire rest of the world? Has to, to be fair.
Are liberals incapable of understanding that the suckers who were still working would have to be taxed most if their pay and that most would quit working?


72 posted on 05/11/2016 3:23:01 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: GilGil

yeah and if everyone had a unicorn and a good luck fairey and oh golly gee....
wouldn’t it be wonderful


73 posted on 05/11/2016 3:59:06 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
I am assuming sarcasm. :-)

Yep. Humor is all I've got. I don't see a solution to the problem of many, many people becoming totally unemployable. It's hard to get a job when your smartphone is smarter than you are - but without a job how do you eat and feed your family? And if you do manage to get a job (through hard work, education and natural abilities) you still can't make enough to feed your family because you are taxed to the hilt in order to feed the families of the others that didn't get the job. It's a tough world for the young these days. Same as it's always been.
74 posted on 05/11/2016 4:00:39 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: BRK
Liberals have ALWAYS thought every person is some kind of Brahman.

That if they didn't have to make a living for their crust of bread that it will be just paradise.

That intellectuals will order society, and every man a king would work in real life.

Prime example of this is H.G. Wells.

How he KEPT being a socialist after WWII is a mystery to me.

Maybe he just gave up after realizing that his childish dreams of Utopia caused nothing but death and misery, and he didn't want to admit that much of his life's philosophy was pure BS.

That's a hell of a thing to admit on your deathbed.

75 posted on 05/11/2016 5:30:38 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: IronJack
That's the big divide between conservative and liberal.

Liberals FEEL that basic human nature can and should be "changed" for the better good.

Conservatives KNOW that human nature can NEVER be changed, and that we must deal with that fact.

76 posted on 05/11/2016 5:43:15 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: GilGil

Great idea! We’ll just plant another money tree


77 posted on 05/12/2016 8:04:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: GilGil

Might as well want runaway inflation, ‘cause that’s what you’re gonna get.


78 posted on 05/12/2016 8:05:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HIDEK6

So it was YOU that planted this idea in their heads...???


79 posted on 05/12/2016 8:06:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: BenLurkin
Watching Maury Povich and drinking malt liquour.

Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo.

80 posted on 05/12/2016 8:09:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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