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John McCain Slips in Provision to Draft Women in Defense Bill [With Updates]
Conservative Review ^ | May 12, 2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 05/13/2016 8:32:22 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll

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To: WilliamIII

You know, you sound just like a liberal; you use their same vicious tactics of personally insulting someone because of their beliefs. You must be a liberal. You and your ilk have bought into their soulless ideology. Sorry, I can’t humor you. Anyone who thinks like you must be a liberal. For me reality rules.


61 posted on 05/13/2016 10:45:39 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: MeganC

Absolutely. Make ‘em register and be eligible for combat slots, that’ll teach ‘em what “equality” really means.


62 posted on 05/13/2016 10:49:16 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: notdownwidems

once again, we’re dealing with a simple syllogism. 1. Feminism has been calling for drafting women from the beginning of feminism. It’s a core part of feminism. 2. Someone who believes feminist positions is a feminist. That’s simple logic because feminism is a belief system. 3 you believe the feminist position on the military. 4 ergo. You are a feminist. So is McCain


63 posted on 05/13/2016 10:52:11 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

1. not all feminists believe in having women drafted, many don’t believe in the draft at all. 2. that is not at all a core of feminism, I have never once heard a feminist calling for a more inclusive selective service act, mostly they have ignored it throughout the history of feminism, since they see, rightly, that it benefits women, at the expense of men, not to have to register. 3. many other conservatives believe as I do, that it is a question of fairness, and has nothing to do with feminism. 4. your logic is as faulty as your debating skills. 5. ergo, you are a liberal


64 posted on 05/13/2016 10:57:09 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Every election cycle, some of the designated "conservatives" in Congress get to do things designed to make them look good back home... these "things" they get to do never actually do anything, but it allows them to get reelected. We've seen this dance over and over every election year.

The whole bunch of them are one big club, and they have this routine down pat now.

65 posted on 05/13/2016 11:05:35 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: notdownwidems

“2. that is not at all a core of feminism,”

You are truly ignorant — or hoping that you can get away with lies. Either way, anyone who’s been around for 50 years as I have, knows that the core principle of feminism is the one that you have embraced with your feminist position on drafting women - i.e., women should be treated the same as men. That’s feminism - your position - in a nutshell.

As Gloriad Steinem pu it in 1970, “Men will have to give up ruling-class privileges, but in return they will no longer be the only ones to support the family, get drafted, bear the strain of power and responsibility.”
“Gloria Steinem - ‘What would if be like if women win’. 1970”
http://jackiewhiting.net/AP/Steinem.htm

It’s a measure of how much Steinem and the original feminists have been victorious, that people like you in 2016 buy their agenda, and think you are “conservative” So many modern conservatives have bought into the old liberal positions — and then you criticize people like me for calling you what you are: liberals and feminists who don’t even realize it.


66 posted on 05/13/2016 11:09:10 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII
“Men will have to give up ruling-class privileges, but in return they will no longer be the only ones to support the family, get drafted, bear the strain of power and responsibility.”

Nice try, but that quote in no way makes it a core principle of feminism...however, tolerance of dissenting opinion IS a core principle of conservatism...an idea you should brush up on.

But keep on insulting those who disagree with you, liberal...really you sound like you belong on Democratic Underground.
67 posted on 05/13/2016 11:14:24 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Females do not belong in combat positions but otherwise I am for this.

Oh golly, my daughter might have to join the military. Meaning she’d have to learn discipline, love of country, and get free college money? Heaven forbid.

I don’t believe in chivalry. Chivalry is what has enabled feminism and much of the cultural downfall of the west. The fact that you have two X chromosomes doesn’t mean you get special treatment from me.


68 posted on 05/13/2016 11:17:55 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: notdownwidems

hey, i’m tolerating your opinion. I’m just pointing out that it’s the feminist opinion. Obama, McCain and you all hold it, along with Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan. I’m sorry that you feel insulted by a truthful statement, but that’s not my problem.


69 posted on 05/13/2016 11:24:44 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

But you do admit that you have a problem? That’s the first step toward getting the help you need!


70 posted on 05/13/2016 11:29:50 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: cherry

“imagine drafting women of childbearing yrs ..”

I certainly can’t imagine drafting women who are NOT of childbearing years. That would mean under thirteen or over forty or even older.


71 posted on 05/13/2016 11:37:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Israel puts large numbers of women into uniform to make a political point — and also, as I said, because demolition of sexual distinctions has always been part of the socialist playbook.

Now that Israel exists and muslims have been radicalized (thanks in no small part to Israel), we need it to continue. But I have no special affection for it, and believe the world would have been more stable and less dangerous if dreamy 19th century socialists hadn’t invented Zionism. Whatever regional political influence the US gains from our relationship with Israel could just as easily and at lower cost have been cultivated with Lebannon. But we have never been very good at foreign policy, have we? And now it’s too late.


72 posted on 05/13/2016 11:52:03 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Da Bilge Troll

McNuts being McNuts! Why can’t he head out to pasture?


73 posted on 05/13/2016 12:06:11 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: aynrandfreak

And that sounds like the response of one who does not understand the religion of the Pharisees whom Jesus & John rebuked, for their religion states, and I quote...

“A Jew who kills a Christian commits no sin, but offers an acceptable sacrifice to G_d.”

And for the record, I am a “Jew” by descent, therefore, according to my brethren, I am a self-hater, not an anti-Semite.

I suggest you go and look up Ben Gurion’s prediction in the special addition of LOOK Magazine, Jan. 16, 1962 “The Next 25 Years”. The entire special addition, with quotes from JFK, MLK, and many many more prominent leaders of that time, many of which have been fulfilled are quite revealing as to the trend of world globalization that we see today. I would also venture to guess that what you call Zionism & what Ben Gurion and those of his ilk call Zionism are two very different things as theirs is rooted in the Talmud & the Zohar, while yours is rooted in a misunderstanding of what it means to ‘pray for the peace of Jerusalem’.

Shalom & may you have a blessed Shabbat


74 posted on 05/13/2016 2:17:34 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: billyboy15

Me, too. But I’ll go further. Women can serve in combat IF they volunteer? Do the men have to volunteer? If the women are equal, they’re equal.

Fogerty needs to write another song called “Senator’s Daughter”.


75 posted on 05/13/2016 2:59:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Never held a job in the private sector;never met a payroll,never created a job - CRUZ! Conservative!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Wow, I never realized how many misogynists there are in FR. Have many women spoken?

I have 2 granddaughters who I suppose would be draft age, but they are both mothers of babies.

Draft the mothers of the next generation, huh? Way to go, guys.


76 posted on 05/13/2016 4:30:40 PM PDT by CatDancer (Praise the Lord and Vote Trump!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I agree, help me at kelliward.com


77 posted on 05/13/2016 4:58:00 PM PDT by Dr Kelli Ward
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To: billyboy15

I agree, this is just more of the same from the Dem enablers!


78 posted on 05/13/2016 4:59:02 PM PDT by Dr Kelli Ward
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Poison pill?


79 posted on 05/13/2016 5:01:50 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Dr Kelli Ward; LucyT

FYI Lucy


80 posted on 05/13/2016 5:04:21 PM PDT by hoosiermama (W1240 (a couple extra to boot) l a Under budget. Ahead of schedule! Go TRUMP)
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