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Opinion:... ..., Hillary and Bernie are lying to us about those lost manufacturing jobs
Market Watch ^ | May 12, 2016 | Michael J. Hicks

Posted on 05/14/2016 4:11:12 AM PDT by expat_panama

Most, if not all, of those manufacturing jobs are gone because of better technology, not Mexico

As the primary season progresses,... ...candidates continue to peddle some version of a promise to “bring back jobs and manufacturing to America.” Voters clinging to this hope need to steel themselves for a letdown. Here’s why.

No matter how you measure it, 2015 was a record year for manufacturing...

...Manufacturing employment peaked nationwide in 1977. Since then... ...makes twice as much “stuff” in an hour as he or she did in 1977...

...In the 1930s, more than half of American household consumption was in manufactured goods... ...Manufacturing now accounts for only a third of family consumption.

These are simple facts...

...candidates blame the North American Free Trade Agreement, but could Nafta cause these job losses? Nafta was implemented in 1994, so if Bernie, Hillary and...

...are to be believed, American firms must have anticipated Nafta by some 20 years (so much for all that short-term thinking on Wall Street).

For every manufacturing job lost since 1977, we have had nearly 10 created elsewhere....

...trade also creates jobs. We have 7 million more transportation and logistics jobs alone...

...The “bring jobs back” promise is simply fiction... ...graduate degrees in robotics laboring in Palo Alto, Calif., West Lafayette, Ind. and Boston are to blame...

...look at any online help-wanted listing in Indianapolis, where Carrier Corp. (part of United Technologies Corp. UTX...

...the real concern is finding enough manufacturing workers to fill existing demand.

The demagoguery on manufacturing employment is most un-presidential and readily contradicted by easily obtainable data. Candidates cannot bring jobs and production back from overseas, since they didn’t go there in the first place. Voters looking for a return to the 1960s economy richly deserve the bitter and lasting disappointment that awaits them.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: economy; manufacturing
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1 posted on 05/14/2016 4:11:12 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

A dependent class is a welcomed class


2 posted on 05/14/2016 4:16:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: expat_panama

It would be much easier to produce an accurate list of what the Left isn’t lying about.


3 posted on 05/14/2016 4:18:32 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: expat_panama
"Hillary and Bernie are lying to us about those lost manufacturing jobs"

Hillary and Bernie are lying to us...

4 posted on 05/14/2016 4:20:22 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: expat_panama

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11 Ch23; Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat

The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.


5 posted on 05/14/2016 4:20:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: expat_panama
When a company closes a factory here and builds one in Mexico or China, that is a lost job. When all of our clothing has a label on it 'made somewhere else', that is a job that should be here. When IPhones should be made here and are made somewhere else, that is a lost job. When a Ford, the great American company, makes any of its autos or trucks elsewhere, those are lost jobs.

That missive is papering-over-BS.

6 posted on 05/14/2016 4:30:48 AM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: expat_panama

I have a fried in HR for a textile company. He told me their equipment is horribly outdated. Profit margin isn’t large enough to afford the new stuff,


7 posted on 05/14/2016 5:01:04 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: expat_panama

——Voters looking for a return to the 1960s economy richly deserve the bitter and lasting disappointment that awaits them-—

That applies to quite a few Freepers who can’t grasp the reality


8 posted on 05/14/2016 5:05:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: expat_panama
Hillary and Bernie are lying to us about those lost manufacturing jobs

Democraps lying to the Americn people like they all have been doing for years and years? OMG...who would believe it? /s

9 posted on 05/14/2016 5:18:53 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: bert

Wages have been declining in real terms since 1969.


10 posted on 05/14/2016 5:35:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: expat_panama

Bull. NAFTA and soon the TPP, have and will weaken America, loose more jobs than they create and enrich the establishment politicians in Washington.


11 posted on 05/14/2016 5:35:29 AM PDT by ZULU (DON'T GO OFF THE RESERVATION.)
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Candidates cannot bring jobs and production back from overseas, since they didn’t go there in the first place.

The fact that the "Made in" labels on the majority of what Americans buy list something other than "USA" easily demonstrates that this assertion is ridiculous nonsense.

North Carolina's textile industry didn't disappear from the state because of robots.

12 posted on 05/14/2016 6:35:38 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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North Carolina’s textile industry came from Massachusetts because it was easier and cheaper to exist in the South than unionized Yankee land.

So, North Carolina lost the business for precisely the same reason as it got it in the first place


13 posted on 05/14/2016 6:41:36 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: bert

And that’s why a combination of tariffs and CGT cuts can bring it back.

Point remains - it didn’t disappear because of “robots.”


14 posted on 05/14/2016 6:42:36 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: ZULU

you have correctly stated the erroneous doctrine


15 posted on 05/14/2016 6:43:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

No, all the mill machines are gone. I was present to witness the inventory of stuff being crated up and shipped out of the country.

The stuff needed for manufacturing is gone


16 posted on 05/14/2016 6:46:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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I witnessed the packing and shipping of a cotton yarn plant from NC to Bangladesh.

It received bales of cotton on one end and spit out yarn on the other. It was state of the art and required a very minimum of people.

There are going to be out of work Bangladeshis as a result of this robot plant coming into operation


17 posted on 05/14/2016 6:50:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: bert; Wyatt's Torch; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; SAJ
richly deserve the bitter and lasting disappointment that awaits...

...applies to quite a few Freepers who can’t grasp the reality

It probably also applies to freepers like me for editing the articles so they "fit" on the FR.  So far nobody's made a fuss on this one nor on Manufacturing a Crisis so if all goes well for a few hours I may also post Millennials Get Free Trade, Why Doesn’t Anyone Else?.  Anyone here think I should?

18 posted on 05/14/2016 6:50:53 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: bert

Stuff can be repacked, right?

I mean, it’s not like it’s permanently gravity-locked into place.


19 posted on 05/14/2016 6:51:57 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: expat_panama

I applaud you dedication and effort


20 posted on 05/14/2016 6:54:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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