[Jim Noble]

Is it meant to set the stage for the next phase of “reform”,complete gov’t takeover of health care?

Duh.

There may be an 18-24 month intermediate stage where refusing Obamacare as payment in full is no longer permitted (Massachusetts has done this for Medicare and Medicaid since 1986 without a ripple), but it's more probable that we will have collapse and full nationalization by 2018 at the latest.

[Mears]

” (Massachusetts has done this for Medicare and Medicaid since 1986 without a ripple), but it’s more probable that we will have collapse and full nationalization by 2018 at the latest. “

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I’m in MA and had a doctor( an Endocrinoligist) say that he didn’t accept Medicare in the late 90s. It is the only time that it has happened.

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