Posted on 05/17/2016 8:13:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Very true. A former friend of mine used meth well after hire while working at a refinery here in NJ. It took a couple years before the random testing caught him. In that time were the company’s offers of “clean up or leave” so he eventually ended up getting fired. Don’t know exactly when he started but according to his ex-wife it was at least two years while there.
It’s possible to slip by...for a while anyway.
BS! Let me tell you outright that you're talking out of your posterior!
Turnarounds/shutdowns are almost always 12 hour shifts, sometimes 16 hours.
Eastman plant maintenance to begin
Just one source of many I could supply. Many companies now implement a mandatory day off with 12/13 days on and one off. It wasn't like that in the past.
Drug testing is very stringent in the petrochemical/chemical field. And if you get on the DISA database you're not going to work for a while.
So shove your ignorance. This field of work is my field of experience and knowledge and much like in the military field we don't take kindly to our fellow workers being disparaged.
My wife grew up in Angleton and Danbury.
She said they did not lock their doors.
I found that quaint and Norman Rockwell-esque.
I think you're going off half-cocked here. I wasn't disparaging your field of work, though I didn't know about the stringent drug testing. On the other hand, how many fellow pipe fitters do you know who ended up decapitated while living out of their truck?
Those are fairly important - and unique - pieces of evidence here. My speculation on meth merely fit the facts - someone working long, hard hours, in debt, and subject to decapitation, not merely murder, in Texas. That spells a Mexican cartel sending message in any number of ways, which means drugs. And as for the type of drug, I'd say meth fits the demands of pipefitting better than weed. Pipefitters would use stimulants if they did drugs.
Facts are facts - the guy is missing his HEAD. That's the important issue here, not that he was a pipefitter.
Hell that's Leprechaun the movie coming to reality. Thanks. /s
My first thought was the victim was on the run and hiding. But then again there are so many down and outs now, who knows. Under bridges are a favorite spot for the homeless and the down and out. Not many details in this story. Again, It could have been anyone. This guy just does not appear to be someone who’d pop up on the cartel radar.
You were insinuating that the man had to do 'meth' to work 12 hour shifts. The further implication with the beheading aspect is that he was buying it from Mexican drug dealers and ran afoul of them.
No, I'm not half-cocked, I'm full irate at you and a whole host of posters on this thread and the other posted threads covering this incident. You have no idea of the hardships petrochemical workers go through and yet you're all full-throated with insinuations, innuendo and besmirchment.
You should have just stuck to the facts instead of building a fantasy novel of your own imagination.
Here is a rabbit for you to chase...
He's asleep in his truck. He hears voices, wakes up and sees a drug deal going down. He gets murdered for being a witness.
See? No need to kill the man's character.
I just assumed that he liked to fish and parked under the bridge by a boat ramp for shade since he was sleeping in his truck, myself. From what I’ve read, he hadn’t had any problems with the law. He was working hard and trying to get back on his feet financially. There are two groups known for decapitation and I strongly suspect one of the two are responsible, but how he attracted their attention is a big question. I don’t think it was random.
The poster was just speculating. Cops and investigators do the same thing. People are capable of anything, regardless of who they are, their position, or who they work for. Look at the crooks in D.C. with Harvard law degrees and wearing $500 suits. Who knows why this victim was targeted. It could have been totally random.
Many people do drugs to get through work - illegal drugs. FYI, it's a big problem all through the WORLD.
And though you don't seem to accept it, most people don't go through life with a chip on their shoulder against petrochemical workers. I have NEVER seen someone say, "yeah, he was a punk, probably one of those petrochemical workers," or "look at that lazy jerk, he's probably a petrochemical worker," or "yeah, typical petrochemical drug user."
NEVER.
In fact, such thoughts don't even come up, even once.
I'm telling you - that beheading thing? That decapitation thing? That body-with-no-HEAD thing? THAT'S THE STORY HERE.
There's lots of murders, no doubt even murders of petrochemical workers occasionally. But that is NOT the thing that makes this story stand out. In America, typically, heads don't go missing, okay? So when it happens, it's a really big deal.
And the fact that it happened to a petrochemical worker is NOT a slam against petrochemical workers, nor is any speculation on WHY it happened to a petrochemical worker. In fact, except for you, few people even care that it WAS a petrochemical worker - they care about the HEAD.
My hunch is he was targeted intentionally. Who walks around with tools/big knives to behead people? How would the suspect even know he was sleeping in his truck if they just walked by at night? Could the suspect have been a homeless mental case? Don’t know.
I should be interesting what they come up with in the victims background. If it’s pretty clean, this could remain a who done it.
Apparently he worked at night and slept in his truck during the day under an overpass. If he regularly went to the same overpass, he’d be easy to find. If he changed overpasses nightly, and refused to live anywhere else, he could have been actively hiding, although whoever he was afraid of could have still tracked him from his workplace, unless that changed all the time too.
While it could have been a crazy, the fact that Mexican drug cartels are known for beheading people, and this is Texas, seems to me to be the likeliest possibility. And it’s all about sending a message, otherwise he would have just been killed. Either he was a user or a dealer, and apparently owed the wrong people too much money.
I found it interesting that his father didn’t so much question the death as the beheading. I think he knows who did the killing and why.
Also the article says “A fisherman who is also a Galveston, Texas, police officer found Alexander in his truck.”
So a cop found him? What a coincidence. Maybe he was under police surveillance. Maybe he was an informant helping to set up a sting, and the bad guys found out. Maybe this fisherman/cop was the victim’s handler, and got to him too late.
It would pretty much explain everything.
I guess Texas is “no country for old men”, or young ones either.
Well if the victim was beheaded in or close to his truck, there had to be a whole lot of blood. Probably hard to miss for a passerby. I suspect the victim was killed first, probably shot or stabbed, then beheaded. We could probably speculate forever. Maybe they’ll break the case. We’ll see.
Alternate reason for him having debts and living in his vehicle: bad divorce and child support payments. But you would think they would mention that.
If they told us everything they had, then the bad guys would know it too. That’s one of the reasons they hold back on going public with some details.
Well...his head was stolen.
My son was a tower climber. He worked hard and lived out of our ancient RV to pay bills. His boss loved it. If there was an emergency on the work site, there was someone right there to handle it.
He paid off thousands of dollars in medical bills. He was trying to clean up his credit to pass a background check to get a better (more stable) job with border patrol. (The contract was to care for the cameras) He was drug-free. Had to be to get - and keep - those jobs.
A lot of young men are living like that in order to get a leg up now days. It’s better than living in ‘mom’s basement’ and saves their pride. A lot of these jobs are too far from home to commute every day, so they stay in their vehicles. Cheaper than rent or a hotel.
My son died last month in a motorcycle accident. He only had $1500 left in medical bills and an old debt from breaking a lease in order to take an out-of-state job opportunity.
I’m proud of what he accomplished. He was almost there.
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