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Costly virtual border fence in tatters
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 22, 2010 | Brian Bennett

Posted on 05/19/2016 11:56:30 AM PDT by Will88

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An article about a NY congressman discussing a virtual wall was pulled, but I wanted to post a reminder that the virtual wall, or virtual fence has been tried before. I always thought it was just a diversion by W who had no intention of securing the border. It was abandoned early in the Obama administration after a couple of billion had been wasted.
1 posted on 05/19/2016 11:56:30 AM PDT by Will88
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If I recall correctly, Obama stopped it because they couldn’t distinguish between a wild animal and a human and were getting too many false positives.

Seems to me that it was working, and you simply needed a hand full of people to monitor the images until you could refine the software a little bit.


2 posted on 05/19/2016 11:59:33 AM PDT by DannyTN
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This is an article from 2010.

Why post it now?

I think most of us would be more interested in what is going on now, and what is planned, rather than what was planned six years ago.


3 posted on 05/19/2016 12:02:05 PM PDT by jdege
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Why post it now?

Comment #1 explains why post it now.

4 posted on 05/19/2016 12:04:23 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Let me give you a hand:


5 posted on 05/19/2016 12:04:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: DannyTN
Physical barriers are just force multipliers. You build them to reduce the number of personnel needed to secure the border. Israel, India, and now many countries in Europe are placing fences at their borders to stem the flow of migrants.

In addition to Mexicans coming across the border, there are tens of thousands coming from Central and South America. And there are thousands of others coming from countries like China, India, and the Middle East. Mexico will not accept them back into Mexico if they are not Mexican citizens. Securing the border is a national security issue.

Seems to me that it was working, and you simply needed a hand full of people to monitor the images until you could refine the software a little bit.

It was never working if you use the metric of stopping illegal entry into the US. It is not enough to monitor people coming thru. You need to apprehend them and deport them. Once they get across the border, it becomes more difficult to deport them. They are imbued with various rights and protections. Our immigration courts are overwhelmed.

6 posted on 05/19/2016 12:05:26 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Will88

Bricks and barbed wire are much cheaper.


7 posted on 05/19/2016 12:06:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Will88

High tech methods can work as well as a wall in my opinion.

Drones alone with monitoring can be greatly effective, I would think.

It is a simple matter of will.


8 posted on 05/19/2016 12:06:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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9 posted on 05/19/2016 12:06:20 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Here's what ours looks like in places:


10 posted on 05/19/2016 12:07:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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That's a fence.

11 posted on 05/19/2016 12:07:57 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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How much of the fence is constructed at this level? Does anyone know?


12 posted on 05/19/2016 12:11:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (W1237 in Under budget. Ahead of schedule! Go TRUMP GO)
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It not a virtuap one, but invisible fence might keep YOUR dog in. But it won’t keep out dogs who want to come in and attack your dog.


13 posted on 05/19/2016 12:11:53 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Uncle Miltie

That seems to go a bit beyond a virtual fence, and that’s what needed.

The virtual fence is a nonsense idea from the get go unless they planned to incinerate the illegal border crossers with lazers, or have BP stationed every half mile.

Only a serious wall or double fencing, plus electronic monitoring, will ever provide adequate security on the southern border, and that will need adequate BP on 24/7 patrol to apprehend any who manage to slip through.


14 posted on 05/19/2016 12:13:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Uncle Miltie

That is how it’s done.


15 posted on 05/19/2016 12:15:33 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: ifinnegan
High tech methods can work as well as a wall in my opinion.

All useless unless there is adequate BP to apprehend those who still cross, and that would require BP every half mile or so in many areas of frequent crossings. And then the next administration who wants no border control would simply remove the BP as Obama has done.

16 posted on 05/19/2016 12:16:10 PM PDT by Will88
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I always thought it was just a diversion by W who had no intention of securing the border.


It was just that...


17 posted on 05/19/2016 12:16:58 PM PDT by chasio649
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This "Virtual Fence" scam is on George Bush.

It's a gimmick he dreamed up to avoid having to keep his promise to build a real border fence.

So he wasted the money congress provided on high-tech gimmicks that accomplished nothing other than making the contractors a little richer.

And Obama has been only too happy to keep the scam going.


18 posted on 05/19/2016 12:17:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If liberals were in charge of the oceans, in 5 years they would be vast water-less deserts)
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This "Virtual Fence" scam is on George Bush. It's a gimmick he dreamed up to avoid having to keep his promise to build a real border fence.

Agree 100%. I was Googling before posting this article and came across one topic where JEB was praising the virtual wall idea.

19 posted on 05/19/2016 12:19:17 PM PDT by Will88
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BORDER

o Yes Wall, No fence.

o No electrical, so it cannot be turned off by Democrats.

o All Executives building fences should be imprisoned for treason eg Boeing.


20 posted on 05/19/2016 12:20:30 PM PDT by TheNext
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