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Untold Damage: America’s Overlooked Gun Violence
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/americas-overlooked-gun-violence.html?_r=0 ^ | 16.05.22 | SHARON LaFRANIERE, DANIELA PORAT and AGUSTIN ARMENDARIZ

Posted on 05/22/2016 4:36:00 PM PDT by golux

Unlike the butchery that bookended it, it merited no presidential statements, no saturation television coverage.

But what took place at 6101 Prentice Street on Aug. 21 may say more about the nature of gun violence in the United States than any of those far more famous rampages. It is a snapshot of a different sort of mass violence — one that erupts with such anesthetic regularity that it is rendered almost invisible, except to the mostly black victims, survivors and attackers (...)

“Clearly, if it’s black-on-black, we don’t get the same attention because most people don’t identify with that. Most Americans are white,” said James Alan Fox, a professor of criminology at Northeastern University in Boston. “People think, ‘That’s not my world. That’s not going to happen to me.’ ”

Michael Nutter, a former Philadelphia mayor, who is black, said that society would not be so complacent if whites were dying from gun violence at the same rate as blacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: golux

Whites are not as violent as blacks, Mr Nutter.

And heaven help you if they were, and were attacking blacks at the same rates blacks attack whites.


21 posted on 05/22/2016 5:11:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Great point. The only crimes they get pissed about is the rare white on black.


22 posted on 05/22/2016 5:11:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: golux

Shot & Killed: 218
Shot & Wounded: 1176
Total Shot: 1394
Total Homicides: 244

Chicago Stats ytd. Tell me again how this is a white persons fault?


23 posted on 05/22/2016 5:13:47 PM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: golux

Time to revive something I Posted a long time ago.

Who is safer, a Black guy walking through a White Neighborhood or a White Guy walking through a Black Neighborhood?


24 posted on 05/22/2016 5:13:48 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary Clinton has killed four more People than Three Mile Island.)
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To: golux

Nutter...a good name for this imbecile mayor. If the whites had more gun violence, then black gun violence would be ok?


25 posted on 05/22/2016 5:14:17 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: golux

balderdash


26 posted on 05/22/2016 5:15:37 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (JFK Wanted To Send Man To Moon - Obama Wants To Send Man To Ladies Room)
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To: golux

In Chicago, in 2009 & 2011, IIRC, 70% of the murder VICTIMS had police records. THAT is why whites don’t care. No one cares about CRIMINALS killing CRIMINALS.


27 posted on 05/22/2016 5:17:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Whites are not as violent as blacks, Mr Nutter.

And heaven help you if they were, and were attacking blacks at the same rates blacks attack whites.”

Blacks would be building rafts to sail to Cuba.


28 posted on 05/22/2016 5:18:37 PM PDT by BiggerTigger
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To: golux
you ever notice how much trash there is all over the streets and the cities and where humans commonly visit or travel? Trash is an obvious problem, it is unsightly and it harms our natural surroundings and the environment in many various ways. Ever hear any of the libturds complain about the harm the trash is doing and blame the trash itself as being the cause of the problem? I didn't think so.
29 posted on 05/22/2016 5:18:42 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: jsanders2001
And most of those killings occur in cities where guns are effectively banned for all intents and purposes. So blame yourself not whites for your problems.

Cities "where guns are effectively banned" represent huge gun free zones and are, therefore, the most dangerous place you can be if you don't have any other means to protect yourselves. The single most dangerous places in cities are those neighborhoods that even cops avoid.

30 posted on 05/22/2016 5:18:56 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: golux

Simple solution; Mandatory 5 year sentence (on top of any other sentence) for anyone previously convicted of a violent felony and found in possession of a firearm. I don’t have much fear of Martha Stewart gunning me down.

Have a different program for anyone adjudicated mentally deficient.


31 posted on 05/22/2016 5:18:58 PM PDT by umgud
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To: golux

3% of the total Populations is responsible for over 50% of the Violent Crime in this Nation.

The 3% is composed of Males between 15 and 35 Years of age.

Figure it out.


32 posted on 05/22/2016 5:20:52 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary Clinton has killed four more People than Three Mile Island.)
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To: golux

Black people use guns in defense of their lives, persons, or stuff all the time, at percentage in excess of their population numbers (and good for those that do!) ... but of course that doesn’t stop SJWs acting as if self defense laws, like everything else, is racist.


33 posted on 05/22/2016 5:21:00 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: golux
Less is known about those who pulled the triggers because nearly half of the cases remain unsolved.

A crowded house party explodes in gunfire and nobody saw nuttin'.

34 posted on 05/22/2016 5:22:38 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: golux
Well, so much for

"An armed society is a polite society"


35 posted on 05/22/2016 5:29:25 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
society would not be so complacent if whites were dying from gun violence at the same rate as blacks.

Whites have nothing to do with it. but there is complacency. Violence, including gun violence is the natural outcome of black culture.

Stop the drug use. Stop the fatherless households. Stop the rebellious music and lifestyles. Quit with the whitey's rules mentality. Nobody is oppressing you but other blacks.

Blacks do everything they can to be different from Whitey and then they complain because their life is a mess.
Thoughtlessness, carelessness, and lack of discipline beget violence.

36 posted on 05/22/2016 5:29:39 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The republican party is the voters, not the politicians.)
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To: Rashputin

I beg to disagree.

The way to really put dampers on criminal activity is if criminals believe their would-be victims are perfectly happy to shoot them and maybe even do a jig as they bleed out.

As most criminals victimize those of their own race, or at least in their own area, and this seems to include most rioting or looting too, this means that folks need to be willing to put down others that look like them (in self defense, of course).

... and not wait for the police to eventually show up.

It would be happy times in many communities if the criminal element was absolutely pants-wetting terrified of their armed and willing peaceable neighbors.

Of course that also means coming to the point that you sneer and shake your heads when some clueless relative prattles on about what a good boy their little gang banger was rather than get all emotional about the tragedy of junior’s death while he was committing a crime.


37 posted on 05/22/2016 5:30:45 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I don’t think they are. I think some a scared though.

But I also look at back conviction rates and the difficulty of empaneling a jury to sit in judgment of a black defendant that lacks for black jurors ... and I’ve drawn the conclusion that black jurors are more willing to convict black defendants, not less (as defense lawyers seem to think).

My reasoning is simple: it takes everyone to convict, so either black jurors are weak willed and easily bullied by eeeevil white jurors are the above is true.


38 posted on 05/22/2016 5:34:47 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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The race hustlers have made hay for decades in the courts using disparate impact. Let’s apply it to gun ownership - no black males under 35 can legally own a gun.

That might make a good question for Hitlery seeing as how she cares so deeply about violent guns.


39 posted on 05/22/2016 5:45:39 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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NYT overlooked Nazi Germany, and continues ignoring the Leftwing fascism of today.


40 posted on 05/22/2016 5:47:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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