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Striking Move by Brooklyn Judge in Felony Drug Case: Probation, Not Prison
New York Times ^ | May 25, 2016 | BENJAMIN WEISER

Posted on 05/25/2016 10:22:01 AM PDT by reaganaut1

A federal judge in Brooklyn, in an extraordinary opinion that calls for courts to pay closer attention to the impact of felony convictions on people’s lives, sentenced a young woman in a drug case to probation rather than prison, saying on Wednesday that the collateral consequences she would face as a felon were punishment enough.

The judge, Frederic Block of Federal District Court, said that the broad range of such collateral consequences served no “useful function other than to further punish criminal defendants after they have completed their court-imposed sentences.”

The judge noted that there were nearly 50,000 federal and state statutes and regulations that impose penalties, disabilities or disadvantages on convicted felons.

Such consequences — the denial of government benefits, ineligibility for public housing, suspension of student loans, revocation or suspension of driver’s licenses — can have devastating effects, he wrote, adding that they may also be “particularly disruptive to an ex-convict’s efforts at rehabilitation and reintegration into society.”

The issue of collateral consequences and sentencing has been considered by other courts, but Judge Block’s 42-page opinion appears to be one of the most detailed examinations yet, combined with his call for reform.

He noted that the inability to obtain housing and employment stemming from a conviction often results in “further disastrous consequences, such as losing child custody or going homeless,” and leads to many ex-convicts “becoming recidivists and restarting the criminal cycle.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: judicialtyranny
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To: knarf

Well, I think that’s foolishness. If society deems you too dangerous to own a firearm, they should never let you out of prison in the first place, since you could easily just steal a firearm if you had bad intentions.


21 posted on 05/25/2016 10:57:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: goldstategop

“Never mentioned is the damage done to the victim.”

What victim? She was convicted of trafficking in an unlawful good, not robbing, beating, raping, or killing someone.


22 posted on 05/25/2016 11:00:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: goldstategop

“And right back to prison.”

Why are we even letting them out in the first place if we set up a system after release that encourages them to re-offend and go right back? Seems like an awful waste of public resources, at the least.


23 posted on 05/25/2016 11:02:18 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: knarf
If the charge is a felony ... it doesn't matter WHAT the sentence is ...

The judge is saying that simply having to live with the stigma of being a felon is punishment enough.

In the old days this was the sort of logic that only applied to politicians, who, when caught red handed in criminal acts, simple resigned and no charges were filed because simply being out of the club was punishment enough. Now ordinary criminals get that too! Hooray!

24 posted on 05/25/2016 11:05:38 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: reaganaut1
calls for courts to pay closer attention to the impact of felony convictions on people’s lives

Scumbag felon should pay closer attention to not being a scumbag felon.

25 posted on 05/25/2016 11:06:38 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: mainestategop
Personally I think people should serve their time without parole and when they are out, they should be treated the same as any other citizen unless they commit further crimes, then the statutes for repeat offenders should be harsh.

If you insist on parole, then a felon like set of restrictions should be in place for the duration of their original sentence. Once that's up, they are regular citizens again.

Just my opinion, don't think once you complete your sentence you should be forever left crawling in the mud unless you go back to crime, then a hammer comes down hard.

26 posted on 05/25/2016 11:09:56 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: pepsi_junkie

In Singapore they hang drug dealers. That would solve the dilemma.


27 posted on 05/25/2016 11:19:40 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

In the Philippines, President elect (takes office in June) Duterte shoots them


28 posted on 05/25/2016 11:24:40 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Personally I think people should serve their time without parole and when they are out, they should be treated the same as any other citizen unless they commit further crimes, then the statutes for repeat offenders should be harsh.

If you insist on parole, then a felon like set of restrictions should be in place for the duration of their original sentence. Once that's up, they are regular citizens again.

Just my opinion, don't think once you complete your sentence you should be forever left crawling in the mud unless you go back to crime, then a hammer comes down hard.

Absolutely agree 100%.

29 posted on 05/25/2016 11:53:07 AM PDT by zeugma (Today is Setting Orange, the 72nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3182)
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To: reaganaut1; All

As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Speaking of people being in prison because they broke a federal law, patriots need to address the following concern. How many people are in federal prison for possibly breaking a federal law that the states have actually never delegated to the corrupt feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to make?


30 posted on 05/25/2016 12:03:26 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oldexpat
In Singapore they hang drug dealers

They can also hang gun owners.

31 posted on 05/25/2016 12:45:17 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: sailor76

They can....Operative words.


32 posted on 05/25/2016 12:47:43 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver
The laws are on the books.

Read them yourself.

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId%3A%227659a792-18f3-43d8-a6ac-463e3ff2453a%22%20Status%3Ainforce%20Depth%3A0;rec=0

33 posted on 05/25/2016 1:10:31 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I am sure our boys in the house will bring up impeachment hearings for failure to follow the law for this scum bag. Yeah right.


34 posted on 05/25/2016 1:15:02 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: goldstategop
In case you’re wondering, no one is forced to commit a crime.

Of course, violating contraband law isn't a real crime in the first place: it's Tyrannical Law.

Nanny-state Drug War fascism is no solution...

35 posted on 05/25/2016 1:18:30 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: knarf

This may be a stupid question, but can your wife or kids own one? I would assume they can’t take away someone else’s rights. If someone breaks in, you just have to make sure she takes out the perp, right?


36 posted on 05/25/2016 1:20:37 PM PDT by Rastus (#AlwaysTrump #NeverHillary)
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