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Court says prisons can’t throw away key for young murderers
SFGate.com ^ | 5/26/16 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 05/26/2016 5:59:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
I think they ought to let them go
21 posted on 05/26/2016 6:33:13 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: NormsRevenge

The really fair thing would have been the death penalty.


22 posted on 05/26/2016 6:37:34 PM PDT by Revel
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To: NormsRevenge

relative lack of mental and emotional development

that describes a lot of the prison population. In fact, it describes....I’ll stop before I say something considered racist.


23 posted on 05/26/2016 6:38:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (The day Trump is sworn in I'm changing my screen name.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“lack of maturity and other factors”

Potential get-out-of-jail-for-free card for thugs.


24 posted on 05/26/2016 6:39:08 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: NormsRevenge

When does the victim get his/her death sentence reduced?


25 posted on 05/26/2016 6:42:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Were Rebublicans 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: NormsRevenge

most severe penalties should not always be applied to youths, even for serious crimes, because of their relative lack of mental and emotional development

Wait. Not responsible enough to be held accountable to the max for committing heinous crimes but as a juvenile they have mental and emotional development enough to decide they are homosexual or transgender or to have an abortion without a parents consent? Liberals having it both ways!!!


26 posted on 05/26/2016 6:45:37 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why not?!

Do they want to let them out so they could murder many more people ?


27 posted on 05/26/2016 6:47:30 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This argument should be moot. Murderers should be executed.


28 posted on 05/26/2016 6:48:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Exactly.

But since they wont do that, and many places do not allow,it, it has to be discussed.


29 posted on 05/26/2016 6:49:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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They won’t allow this either. We should emphasize what we want not argue in their ball park.


30 posted on 05/26/2016 6:54:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: goldstategop

A 15 year old who deliberate murders is not going to magically change at 18.
Manslaughter, though, I might agree with a new review.


31 posted on 05/26/2016 6:55:26 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: goldstategop

Liberals are saying kids this age can decide to have an abortion and have sex changes that can’t really be reversed - but murder an adult, get another chance.


32 posted on 05/26/2016 6:57:11 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: NormsRevenge

Can the courts also “un-kill” the victims?

Actions with permanent results should have the potential for permanent punishments. That may have been phrased inarticulately but I think you guys get the point.


33 posted on 05/26/2016 7:00:24 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: TexasGator

Of which he has to pass, 25 years from now


34 posted on 05/26/2016 7:00:42 PM PDT by advertising guy
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35 posted on 05/26/2016 7:20:19 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: samtheman; morphing libertarian; Secret Agent Man
IMO, the biggest waste of money is letting murderers live on appeal for 10-20-30+ years, unlimited lawyers and trials, and a final execution costs $1 million-plus. Murderers, terrorists, rapists, child molesters get 1yr, 3 appeals; then they get dead. Absolutely zero recidivism.

It could be done for under $100 with a paid-by-the-job, traveling executioner, using a 230gr HP .45cal ACP for about 46¢/round. Clean out and refill the many Death Rows, monthly.

The 6th Commandment actually says: "Thou Shalt Not Murder". It does NOT say, "Thou Shalt Not Kill." I personally don't consider any summary-execution — except by subhuman, murderous muslim/islamic pigshit — as murder, in any way, shape or form. It's "Due-Justice-For-Crimes-On-This-Earth", IMO.

The Death Penalty is The Foundation of Government.

Yes, I agree with the premise of this article, that "the death penalty is a Noahic Covenant with God, in a post-flood world", and America should apply it every-damned-day, to those deserving death for their crimes against society and its innocents.

36 posted on 05/26/2016 7:35:28 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

premeditated murder - send them to the Big Judge....

manslaughter..... different can of sardines...


37 posted on 05/26/2016 7:40:47 PM PDT by sdpatriot ("Thank you very much, sdpatriot!! Smooch!" - from JR - send him a buck!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The problem, of course, is that most heinous young offenders are that much WORSE than the general pop criminals. Some of the early adolescent offenders are chilling at a spiritual level. It is as though there is nothing within them but a void.


38 posted on 05/26/2016 7:56:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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“You mean if you if murder at 15, you get a free pass at 40?”

18, in many states. If you encounter the phrase ‘juvenile life’, it means full release regardless of the offense at age 18 or 21.


39 posted on 05/26/2016 7:58:37 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: carriage_hill

In California we have a few hundred inmates on death row at about 75,000 each per year. That number is a few years old. Then they stay for decades.

We could set up a three judge abel. Hire attorneys and assistants and speed up the process. No one should get more that 3 years on appeal. Expedite everything and only leave the USSC, which should butt out except for the most serious rights issues. No two bites up and down the system, unless clear evidence emerges which wasn’t previously considered. If we got 200 off death row, we would more than pay for the people to run the system.


40 posted on 05/26/2016 8:05:10 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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