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First Deposition Testimony from Clinton Email Discovery Released
The court-ordered discovery to uncover details about former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email system has produced the first testimony from her top aides.
This week we released the deposition transcript of Ambassador Lewis Lukens, former deputy assistant secretary of state and executive director of the State Department’s executive secretariat. The transcript is available here. We deposed Amb. Lukens as part of the discovery granted to Judicial Watch by U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in response to our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit involving Clinton’s unsecured, non-government email system ( Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)).
Lukens testified that he thought it was not unusual that Mrs. Clinton did not ask him to create a State Department email account for her. He testified that he understood that her BlackBerry use was only to “stay in touch with friends and family.”
Lukens, according to his testimony, saw Clinton “maybe a half a dozen times” positioned “in the hallway outside the SCIF [Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility] standing there looking at her BlackBerry.” Lukens testified that he saw Mrs. Clinton with her BlackBerry on foreign trips and that her aide Huma Abedin carried around two BlackBerrys.
Lukens also testified about his 2009 email exchanges with Cheryl Mills in 2009 in which he offered to set up a separate computer on non-State Department network to allow Mrs. Clinton to check her email:
Lukens also testified about his 2009 email exchanges with Cheryl Mills in 2009 in which he offered to set up a separate computer on non-State Department network to allow Mrs. Clinton to check her email:
Q. After your conversation with Ms. Mills, Ms. Mills e-mailed you, and it talks about – I’m sorry, the quality of the e-mail is a little difficult to read, but it says: “Let’s set up the office across the hall for her to use. It needs a phone, et cetera, so she can go across the hall to check her BB,” her BlackBerry.
You mentioned that you talked about setting up a computer in her office. Do you know why Ms. Mills seemed to prefer having the computer set up in the office across the hall?
A. This wasn’t for a computer setup; this was to create a space for her to go check her BlackBerry.
Q. Okay. In the Secretary’s office, is that what’s considered a SCIF?
A. The Secretary’s office is in a SCIF, which encompasses a lot more of the seventh floor.
Q. Okay. And the office that’s across the hall is outside that area?
A. Correct.
Lukens also testified about his idea to set up a separate computer and network for Mrs. Clinton. Cheryl Mills and Lukens discussed the email issue in early 2009:
A. So the crux of the issue was that BlackBerrys and iPhones are not allowed in the Secretary’s office suite, so the question was, how is the Secretary going to be able to check her e-mails if she’s not able to have the BlackBerry at her desk with her.
Q. And so what did you — did you propose a solution at that point?
A. So my proposal was to set up a computer on her desk, a standalone computer, for her to be able to access the Internet to check her e-mails.
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Q. Do you know if this setup would have been any different from the setup of other employees?
A. Yes, this would have been different.
Q. How would it have been different?
A. My understanding is that most of the employees’ computers in the State Department are connected through the State Department’s OpenNet e-mail system, Internet system.
Q. So this one would have been separate from the OpenNet system?
A. Correct.
Ultimately, according to his testimony, the computer was not set up for Mrs. Clinton.
Lukens is the first of seven depositions of former Clinton top aides and State Department officials that we have scheduled over the next four weeks. Also to be deposed are Cheryl Mills (her deposition is happening today, in fact) and Huma Abedin, as well as top State Department official Patrick Kennedy, and former State IT employee Bryan Pagliano. In granting the discovery, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan noted that “based on information learned during discovery, the deposition of Mrs. Clinton may be necessary.”
It is noteworthy that this key State Department witness was insistent that he didn’t know Clinton was using non-State.gov emails and computer equipment for government business. It suggests the agency is seeking to distance itself from Mrs. Clinton’s conduct.
State Department Office of Inspector General Slams Clinton Email Practices
DOJ response-—————crickets.
Off the Wall Ping!
Contact to be added.
Blah Blah Blah. They’re just going through the motions. Nothing will happen.
Did the Mills Deposition take place? Why is this so secret? It has nothing to do with the Holiday weekend. Can’t JW just confirm or acknowledge it took place. I don’t see the point in hiding it when it will take a week to release the transcript.
The only deposition so far has been Lewis Lukens, the others are scheduled. Judicial watch has released his dep and will release each transcript as they are completed.
Doesn't anybody say "Hey wait a minute.. This deposition contains sensitive information!!"???
DOJ = Democrats Obstructing Justice
Only an OJ Juror could overlook Hillary’s crimes.
Why was this done? This goes all the way to the top and was done to hide 0dunga's treasonous foreign policy from Congress and FOIA (public) prying eyes.
Also, the deposition was held on May 18 and transcript completed and released by JW on May 26.
WP is (apparently) covering this, at least to some extent...
State Dept. offered ‘standalone’ PC for Clinton’s email
Spencer S. Hu
Washington Post
May 26, 2016
Did anyone ask this clown why he didn't think it unusual? It would/should be automatic that an account be created. Maybe that was not his area of responsibility? Otherwise he should be fired (Yeah right) for gross negligence.
Only an OJ Juror could overlook Hillary’s crimes.
Especially if it’s the OJ prosecution team.
Yes, it surprises me that the WP is being critical of Her Thighness, she can’t be happy.
excerpt:
May 18 – Lewis A. Lukens, deputy assistant secretary of state and executive director of the State Department’s Executive Secretariat from 2008 to 2011, who emailed with Patrick Kennedy and Cheryl Mills about setting up a computer for Clinton to check her clintonemail.com email account.
May 27 – Cheryl D. Mills, Clinton’s chief of staff throughout her four years as secretary of state.
June 3 – Stephen D. Mull, executive secretary of the State Department from June 2009 to October 2012, who suggested that Clinton be issued a State Department BlackBerry, which would protect her identity and would also be subject to FOIA requests.
June 6 – Bryan Pagliano, State Department Schedule C employee who has been reported to have serviced and maintained the server that hosted the “clintonemail.com” system during Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state.
June 8 – 30(b)(6) deposition(s) of the State Department regarding the processing of FOIA requests, including Judicial Watch’s FOIA request, for emails of Clinton and Abedin both during Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state and after.
June 28 – Huma Abedin, Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and a senior advisor to Clinton throughout her four years as secretary of state and also had an email account on clintonemail.com.
June 29 – Patrick F. Kennedy , undersecretary for management since 2007 and the secretary of state’s principal advisor on management issues, including technology and information services.
Comey and his staff must be totally overwhelmed with the data and evidence. As Napolitano said, every rock they pick up reveals 3 or 4 other rocks with indictable offenses.
It will take years really. . can you see all the books and maybe a movie?
Clinton cash. . The biggest money laundering organization in human history. . Just amazing she is even running for President. . We'll see how it all shakes out but I don't see how she can even get the nomination. The whole email/server/Clinton Foundation/Clinton Global Initiative. . we're just starting to get all the data. . How can they continue to spin this?
What bugs me is I was shaking my head in 94 with the Clintons with Whitewater, Travelgate, Rose Law Firm, FBI Files, Mena, the Troopergate escapades, The Clinton women, . . the scandals went on and on. . in 1994! and here we are. . Hillary is actually running for President. . boggles the mind.
The Alamo Girl Files: http://www.alamo-girl.com/
Lots of data. . How could ANYONE vote for her after reviewing the Alamo Files? Pass it on. .
I totally agree with you.
It goes to show just how corrupt the Rat political machine has become and the Republicans have their moments also.
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