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To: doug from upland

We came very close to losing that battle which would have added at least two years to the war in the Pacific


4 posted on 05/29/2016 7:34:26 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
And if it hadn't been for Japan worrying about invading Alaska, Midway would probably have been lost:

Originally planned to be launched prior to the attack on Midway, on 16 Apr Nagano conceded to Yamamoto that the Aleutian Islands attack was to take place at the same time as the attack on Midway in order to maintain strategic surprise in north and central Pacific. Originally opposing the Aleutian Islands addition to his plan, Yamamoto delegated the entire planning of Aleutian Islands operation to Captain Kameto Kuroshima.

11 posted on 05/29/2016 7:41:42 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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To: 2banana
One broken seaplane. And even then

Because one of the cruiser floatplanes couldn't take off, there was a gap in the dawn search pattern - exactly where the US carriers were.

Yamamoto elected to let the seaplane be repaired.

If he had decided to fill the gap by detaching one of the strike force bombers, the US carriers would have been detected in time to cancel the strike against Midway, rearm the first wave with SAP bombs and torpedoes, and send them (with his best pilots)against the carriers. Leaving the second wave Zeros on his carriers ready to defend against any counterattack.

58 posted on 05/29/2016 9:39:45 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: 2banana

Some of the bravest people in America fought that battle. I think of the men of Torpedo 8 who lost all but one of their people


68 posted on 05/30/2016 3:06:30 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2banana
We came very close to losing that battle which would have added at least two years to the war in the Pacific

There is a fabulous book by Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully called "Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway". It is the battle shown entirely from the Japanese side and deals with everything from tactics to training to ship design to damage control and dozens of other factors as well. Read that and it's clear that the U.S. victory was not miraculous but the result of better ships, better leadership, and a bit of luck thrown into the mix.

72 posted on 05/30/2016 4:28:08 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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