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To: HangUpNow

Look, I’m not a FAN of Biden by any stretch but if you don’t think he’s a charismatic guy, I think you’re wrong.

Some (many here, I imagine) will see him as the doddering old fool. If he’s the candidate, they will make him look like the elder statesman. Remember what happened when he debated Paul Ryan? Everyone thought Ryan would destroy him for precisely the reasons you outlined. That didn’t happen.

Sanders won’t sell “socialism”. He won’t debate the benefits of socialism vs. capitalism. He’ll sell hate for anyone who succeeds, hate for the current crop of politicians and bankers. Hate for people he’ll claim have screwed the middle class. And people will buy it.

We can agree that his solutions are ass-backward but he’s not getting people to vote for him because of his SOLUTIONS. He’s getting people to vote for him because he’s identifying a problem. They believe he will “do something” about the problem without considering what that “something” is.

This is why many people switch between Sanders and Trump - they both identify the problem and for many people, simply identifying the problem is enough of a reason to vote for them. Many - those that would switch between Sanders and Trump - don’t care WHAT the solutions are as long as the problems are identified/addressed. They don’t have core principles off which they form opinions.

Trump probably beats Sanders but it’ll be a much closer race than you’re giving credit for - and that’s because America does indeed have yuuuger problems. Think about it, can you imagine any era before now where an admitted socialist/communist would be considered a serious candidate for President??


29 posted on 06/03/2016 6:16:34 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

You are correct. For reasons that shall always escape me, the average person out there actually LIKES Joe Biden.


32 posted on 06/03/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Personal Responsibility
No, I've never bought the positive media caricature of Biden as some kind of wise, charismatic older statesman. He's been a hood ornament for 0'Bambster. Assignment: Smile for his new pearly whites and pat down little girls and women. He's a creep and do-nothing veep -- which the media has conveniently and totally ignored.

As a Senator he a was a mean ol' SOB Dem. Can you cite any of his "accomplishments"? I can't.

Ryan was a weak patsy who played paddy-cake against Biden. Palin easily more than held her own with Biden. Trump would destroy him.

The only commonality between Trump voters and and Sanders voters is a weariness with The Political Establishment Class. Other than that, the two have nothing much in common.

The Comrade's solution is purely Confiscation. Trump's solution are business principles: Opportunity, LOGIC and Logistics.

On this we do agree -- Sanders will play the "Hate" Card, the "Equality" Card, the "Economic" card -- but isn't that all Socialism/Communism? But let's not forget -- Sanders' supporters are basically anarchists and college kids. Yes -- it is unfathomable to believe Sanders is attracting as much support as he is. AS a Commie. Isn't it?

40 posted on 06/03/2016 6:40:10 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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