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To: expat_panama
I never called anyone a Nazi. Look up the definition of "fascism" before you make a statement like that.

The relationship between government and corporations in America these days is no different than it was back in the post-WW2 decades. You have corporations currying favor with government to get huge government contracts and competitive advantages in the market, and government adding enormous costs to these companies that make them uncompetitive outside the U.S.

The only thing that's changed is that the uncompetitive position of the U.S. in a global economy actually matters now. This isn't the 1950s where General Motors would get enormous military contracts for unneeded trucks and jeeps in exchange for generous employment guarantees for the UAW members who supported the Congressional candidates who wrote those defense appropriations bills. The U.S. is not the only industrial power left standing after WW2 anymore, and with $20 trillion in debt the reality of global competition is only beginning to sink in.

7 posted on 06/16/2016 4:56:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: Alberta's Child
You have corporations currying favor with government to get huge government contracts and competitive advantages in the market...

Not sure what we're talking about here but I see that as a good thing.  Corporations are groups of Americans and the governments are the people that Americans (including corp owners) hire to keep order.  We want the U.S. gov't to contract out the lion's share of its work and they have to hire corporations because unions and garden clubs do a bad job of making ships and planes.

...and government adding enormous costs to these companies...

--and as the essay at the top of the page explains this burden is biz-bash regulations that're making corps flee the U.S.. 

...that make them uncompetitive outside the U.S.

At the moment, the U.S. has about a twentieth of the world's population and U.S. corps export about a tenth of the world's total.  That will change for the worse if this mindless class hatred is allowed to grow.

fwiw, Hitler grew to power as an ardent follower of Mussolini's fascism and sent out his brown shirts to match the Italian black shirts.  Their econ policies were both presented as a 'third-way', mid way between capitalism and communism --just like Obama's.   These are the folks we want to channel our anger toward.

12 posted on 06/16/2016 7:41:56 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Alberta's Child
...the uncompetitive position of the U.S. in a global economy ... This isn't the 1950s ... The U.S. is not the only industrial power left standing after WW2 anymore...

I've been thinking/saying that for a lot of years.

Couple that reality with the high expectations of an underachieving, ill-educated, easily manipulated populace and you have the mess we are in.

13 posted on 06/16/2016 8:46:07 AM PDT by citizen (ISIS: They put the IS in IS-lam.)
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