Posted on 06/17/2016 5:19:20 AM PDT by rktman
Cruz, politician most his life, wants to play it safe.
He is not ‘leading’ anything, contrary to the meme he’s the leader of conservatives/conservatism.
Thanks. Great job.
His supporters can’t see that Cruz has literally stolen all of Trump’s policies, then lied about Trump’s stances.
Pretends those are his own and the fools believe it. They have overlooked Cruz’s early platform and how it has done a 180. This is an abomination.
Cruz’s first lie was that he is an outsider. He and his creepy NAU wife need to sit down and shut up. He still hasn’t honored his pledge to support the nominee.
What anyone “said” in the primary, and who said it first, is a past fact.
Thanks
All we're debating is the form of support. I see Cruz's speech as supporting Trump, just indirectly, and not in the form of an endorsement.
-- Do Cruz' own supporters hold him in such disdain that if he strongly backed Trump, they would refuse to follow suit? --
I'm sure some do and would (Mark Levin, Amanda Carpenter, several posters on this thread), but that's not an issue in my mind.
Maybe your question is answered by me fleshing out "not certain a Cruz endorsement helps Trump." The "uncertain" region I have in mind is the area where a Cruz endorsement doesn't add much to Trump's support, and it doesn't take much from Trump's support. It changes little, it makes no measurable difference.
“There are some that are irrational haters of Cruz, but they are few.”
That’s true. Most of us are rational Cruz haters.
Well....he is a Cubanadian.
Yes. The only real difference is that when Cruz says it, he uses words formed into complete sentences with a grammatically correct structure rather than sputtering sentence fragments and stream of consciousness rambling.
I'm pretty sure what I did in the erroneous link was, following my usual practice, first typed the starting point for inserting a link, <a href=" then cutting and pasting from a source (my own notes) that also included that <a href" after that. On preview, the "Congressional Record ..." text was a link, so I didn't take the time to review its contents or test it.
Well no, there are some other differences.
1) The voters didn't like Cruise.
2) Trump is a native son patriot.
3) Crews is a Canadian.
It seems people prefer Trump's style.
“And yet, he is still working behind the scenes to ensure Hillary is elected president in 2016, so he (Ted Cruz) can run for president in 2020”
Please point us to the link.
So, are we to suppose that the cruz haters will disagree with anything cruz does even if it’s defending the 2nd amendment? Almost like being attacked by libs or something. :)
Senator Cruz chose to lounge poolside in Mexico a few weeks back rather do the job he was elected to and “defend” us against Obama’s plan to turn the suburbs into section 8 dump holes. How principled and conservative of him.
7th paragraph...
But Mr. Cruz offered more muted criticism, passing on the chance to level a personal attack at Mr. Trump and focusing instead on his push to grant governors the power to stop refugee resettlement in their states and to enact a three-year moratorium on refugees coming here from Iraq, Syria and other terrorist infested countries.
See if you can follow along...
1.) Trump says he wants to ban Muslims
2.) Cruz says he want to ban people from terrorist strongholds
3.) Trump says he wants to ban people from terrorist strongholds
4.) Cruz takes to the floor of the Senate to defend his position
5.) Morons like you criticize Cruz.
Here's what Trump said Tuesday: "When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe, or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats."
Trump said last year: "Legal status, we got to move ’em out, we’re going to move ’em back in if they’re really good people."
In Trump's web site, describing his Immigration platform, the word "Muslim" doesn't even show up.
Trump's recent words and policy are a carbon property of what Cruz has said all along.
Actually, I think you’ll see that Trump is agreeing with Cruz. Senator Cruz has been saying this long before Trump started.
Wrong. This was Cruz’s position last December:
Ted Cruz: ‘I do not agree’ with Trump’s Muslim moratorium
This is what he just said on the senate floor:
The legislation I have introduced, which I would urge this body to take up, would impose a 3-year moratorium on refugees coming from any nation where ISIS or Al Qaeda or radical Islamic terrorists control a substantial portion of the territory.
Cruz is playing catch-up (once again) with Trump. That was Cruz’s biggest problem in the primaries. Trump would take a hard line stance. Cruz would criticize Trump as being too extreme. Then, when everyone realized Trump was gaining support for his hard line stance, Cruz would change his position and become “Mr. Me Too.”
From illegal immigration, to the wall, to the Muslim ban, to trade, Cruz became “Mr. Me Too” in relation to Trump.
Well done. Brilliant take down of Cruz. What a fraud bought and paid for career politician Ted Cruz is. I was a supporter of his for many years up until TPA. When he stood with Obama and Goldman and against us I knew it was time to move on.
So you are saying one of two things. A, that Cruz has such a tiny, negligible number of supporters that they would add nothing quantifiable to Trump’s support.
Or,
B, that Cruz isn’t enough of a leader to marshal his supporters even to vote against Mrs. Clinton. I.e.: if he gave a major speech explaining how four years of Hillary would destroy the USA, and urging support for Trump to stop her, Cruz’ supporters would ignore him and eschew Trump.
One of the knocks on Cruz all along is that he’s not a leader. So B, is probably a real possibility.
Cruz should have been enthusiastically introducing Trump in his home state yesterday rather than blowing hot air in the beltway to no effect. As always, Ted Cruz is all about Ted Cruz.
Yes, we differ on that point (and many others, I am sure). I don’t think Trump needs Cruz. In life, stress, adversity and even opposition serve to make the victor stronger.
Would Trump benefit from having Cruz’s support? Probably. But let Cruz be Cruz. In this case, he’s helping the cause. Calling for a temporary ban on immigration from certain countries ... that’s a big deal. Did you see it reported?
Disagree. Trump is getting fragged from all directions right now. The GOP declared open season on Trump. He can use all the GOP support he can get up until the convention. A Cruz endorsement would certain have sucked some wind out of the continuing never Trump tantrums.
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