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Senate GOP Rebuffs Trump on Gun Control Call
News Max ^ | June 17, 2016

Posted on 06/17/2016 6:09:55 PM PDT by Abiotic

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To: Reno89519

I didn’t say that there was anything wrong with it.

I personally do not support such a thing, because as soon as we empower our government to fight terrorists, our government uses that power against normal, innocent Americans, and does nothing against terrorists.

If someone is a terrorist, then that person should be deported or stripped of their citizenship and then exiled from America forever.

There is no reason that terrorists should not be tolerated in our midst, because they can use anything to kill, not just our guns.

It should also be noted that this person was not on any terror watch list.


81 posted on 06/17/2016 8:05:29 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Fantasywriter

The lamentations of the soggy bottom mohamadeens is a beautiful sound, is it not? ;)


82 posted on 06/17/2016 8:06:26 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: chris37

-not*


83 posted on 06/17/2016 8:08:10 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Electric Graffiti

They’re as funny as can be.

But on a serious note,if Trump were as leftist as some claim, he’d have some major liberal endorsements. Instead, liberals react to him with unfiltered horror.

Hmm.


84 posted on 06/17/2016 8:13:48 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
“...he’d have some major liberal endorsements. Instead, liberals react to him with unfiltered horror.”

Yup. The k street whores, gubbermint parasites and anal remoras that comprise the kabuki party in D.C. don't know what to do. Sending out the has-been omuslim trolls is all they got left.

85 posted on 06/17/2016 8:24:33 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: refermech
I think he said guns should not be sold to persons on the terrorist watch list. I agree.

And just like that, with no due process, an unelected, unaccountable bureaucrat has added you to the terrorist watch list because you post on a right-wing web site. And you have no recourse available to you.

Do NOT be a useful idiot for the enemy, and allow them to re-frame this into a gun-control argument, and allow our rights to be subject to the whims of a bureaucrat.

86 posted on 06/17/2016 8:40:10 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Arm_Bears
Establish a law that people on the terror watch list cannot buy guns and by the middle of the following week every registered Republican in the US will be on the terror watch list.

Bears repeating for the low-IQ portion on FR, who are willing to let the left re-frame Islamic Jihad into stealing our 2nd amendment rights.

87 posted on 06/17/2016 8:48:44 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Reno89519

The problem is, there are huge number of people on the No Fly List with common Anglo names who are NOT terrorists and, by extension, EVERYONE in the country who shares the same, common name is also on the No Fly List.

There have been a number of threads about this problem on the frequent flyer web site, flyertalk.com, over the years.

Anyone named David Nelson, including the now late son of Ozzie and Harriet, is on that list. Somewhere, someplace a guy named David Nelson is wanted for something, so viola, by extension, everyone with that name is on the list. And what the original person is wanted for many times has nothing to do with the safety of civil aircraft.

Also anyone named Jack Baldwin, Alexandra Hayes, and countless other common Anglo names are on that list.

A number of years ago, “60 Minutes” had a group of 10 or 12 people who shared these common names on a segment of their show. None of these people were barred from boarding a plane, but they have to go through time-consuming, intrusive extra “security” for the “privilege,” and off miss their flight.

The Dept. of Homeland Security, a Stasi in the making, considers veterans, gun owners, Christians, TEA Party people, etc. to be a threat. Are they going to decide who gets to buy a gun, and who is on the list? And how does one get off this stupid list if they are put on it unjustly?

I have no problem with Trump talking with the NRA.....I’m sure they aired their concerns clearly.


88 posted on 06/17/2016 8:53:54 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban muslims, NOT guns.....Register liberals, NOT guns)
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To: palmer

That’s ironic, because private sales had nothing to do with what happened in Orlando or Sandy Hook.


89 posted on 06/17/2016 8:55:46 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban muslims, NOT guns.....Register liberals, NOT guns)
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To: skimbell
It was my understanding that Trump is going to talk to the NRA concerning their remark yesterday that they, the NRA is in favor of a no fly/no buy provision. I think that Trump is mostly concerned with due process issues.

You have that exactly backwards. It's Trump that wanted to talk to the NRA about a gun buy ban for those on the terror watch list. Choose your source.

And it was the NRA which said they'd be glad to explain "due process" to that idiot moron leftist Donald Trump. Choose your source.

90 posted on 06/17/2016 8:57:43 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Grrr.....Post 88, paragraph 5. “Off” should be “often.”


91 posted on 06/17/2016 8:59:10 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban muslims, NOT guns.....Register liberals, NOT guns)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
As I wrote in another thread, put terrorists on No Fly List, make list transparent, establish an appeal process or due process for US citizens. And, yes, no reason why terrorists on the No Fly list not banned from buying guns.

Latest terrorist not on list? True. Worse, he worked on a government contract even though government had more than once tagged him for terrorist ties and so forth. Incompetence. A few people should be identified and fired.

92 posted on 06/17/2016 9:04:27 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Sharia, No Islam. No Problem. Just say No to Islam. Period.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So, what exactly did Trump say? Or are you just taking the Washington Post’s word for it?

The moron, in his own words:

"I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns."

The NRA's response:

Happy to meet @realdonaldtrump. Our position is no guns for terrorists—period. Due process & right to self-defense for law-abiding Americans

You morons voted for a gun-grabbing Democrat. God help us!

93 posted on 06/17/2016 9:06:19 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Mastador1

LOL. You are one deluded loser Cruzer. You can have your concern troll “facts” from the goosestepping propagandists at the WaPOO. I’ll stick with a patriot like Senator Jeff Sessions who says this is a big fat nothing burger. Deal?


94 posted on 06/17/2016 9:28:38 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: springwater13

Republicans won’t be slaughtered on the issue if they stick to what the Constitution calls for in this case: DUE PROCESS. Just because someone is on a government list doesn’t mean they should automatically forfeit a constitutional right. There needs to be arbitration by a neutral judge.


95 posted on 06/17/2016 9:30:54 PM PDT by FR33DOM4ME
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To: Monitor

And it was the NRA which said they’d be glad to explain “due process” to that idiot moron leftist Donald Trump


You are out of order.


96 posted on 06/17/2016 9:32:49 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: palmer

The only hope we have is to get something in return, not just keep giving up our rights incrementally for nothing.
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I can’t think of anything worth ‘giving up our rights incrementally’ for. We barely have any left anyway.

Our God-given and Constitutionally protected rights are not bargaining chips. At least they shouldn’t be.


97 posted on 06/17/2016 9:35:43 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: lodi90
You are out of order.

I have directly quoted Trump, and directly quoted the NRA's response. I don't care that you don't like it, it's the truth. If you don't like the truth, that's your issue, not mine.

98 posted on 06/17/2016 9:37:39 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Monitor

You deluded imbecilic Cruzlim. Cruz family made millions from sleazy Goldman Sachs. Gave basically nothing to charity. You “moron” Cruzlims buy the false witness of bought and paid for career politician loser Ted Cruz. Pathetic.


99 posted on 06/17/2016 9:38:50 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: lodi90
You deluded imbecilic Cruzlim. Cruz family made millions from sleazy Goldman Sachs. Gave basically nothing to charity. You “moron” Cruzlims buy the false witness of bought and paid for career politician loser Ted Cruz. Pathetic.

I have directly quoted Trump, and directly quoted the NRA's response. I don't care that you don't like it, it's the truth. If you don't like the truth, that's your issue, not mine.

100 posted on 06/17/2016 9:43:45 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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