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They Don't Want Your AR-15: They Want Everything
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2016 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 06/18/2016 4:29:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

The “news” media is ranting the democrats familiar song, after a muslim jihadi committed atrocities in a gay nightclub: “We must ban the AR-15, a weapon of war, it has no place in the public’s hands. Why does anyone need an AR-15 to murder Bambi?”

It doesn’t matter to the “fair and balanced“ media that the mass murderer (not “gunman,” a deliberate derogatory sexist slur against men—and guns) didn’t use or even have an AR-15.

It doesn’t matter that banning the AR-15 would have zero effect on what was done, or what the next jihad assault will do. All that matters is that murders create political capital and useful propaganda that influence useful idiots to press Congress to act against the Constitution. And they do. For shame.

What democrats and anti-rights bigots want is to ban all effective weapons in American hands. Without realizing it (maybe) they pursue marxist goals of making the public subservient to the government boot. It is the exact opposite of why the Second Amendment is in the Constitution in the first place: It’s there to balance federal power.

Ever since the so-called Gun Control Act of 1968, when officials could get all the machine guns they wanted, but you and I could only get single-shot rifles like the AR-15, we have been subarmed. The balance of power flipped decisively to government.

That’s why you see the atrocious federal leviathan that concerns everyone. Even the ACLU is worried about how much federal power has grown. Mao was right. Power comes from the barrel of a gun. All I have is the barrel of a pen. Ain’t much of a match.

Democrats and their sycophantic media allies have been down this road before. They’re yelling about the AR-15, but when the bills come out—mark my words—the AR will not be the only gun in the bill. Every black gun known will be included. They hate black guns. They barely understand guns at all, but if they’re big and black, they hate ‘em. Listen, it’s not good to hate.

Ours only fire one shot at a time, and are all we have left. Antis think they’re machine guns, but they took those from us back in 1968. They know nothing, but that doesn’t matter to hoplophobes—people with morbid gun fear who desperately need but never seek treatment.

In their last bill, Diane Feinstein’s, they listed guns in a 90-page catalog, but that was a trick to throw you off. You think this bill will go backwards and list fewer? That bill, in fine print, broadly included guns with anything that could serve as a grip. I know, it sounds impossible, but I read these things. With a little subtle maneuvering, that’s what they did, the list was a smokescreen, didn’t matter, since any gun has grips, so you can pick it up and hold it. That’s how these people operate. So-called reporters promoted the talking points (“Save the children!”) not the actual proposal (“Take all the guns!”). The so-called background program was a gun-registration scheme, again misreported.

Then bigots yell at the NRA for blocking “reasonable common sense bills.” They are nothing of the sort. And of course, banning the AR-15—the finest rifle made in America, the choice of police who are otherwise outgunned against the exact same criminals people face—would have no effect against jihadis. It would just disarm us. The jihadis can’t bear anything, legally. Hillary, Obama, all their allies, they know this. They’re knowingly lying to your face, to disarm you.

And this no-fly lie? The Constitution cannot (legitimately) be suspended by putting anyone’s name on a list. If you’re so bad you can’t fly to Cincinnati, why are you still out walking around? Why can you take a train or bus there? You should be charged with something before your rights can be summarily removed. You should have due process. Those are blazing red lines no serving politician should ever cross. Any politician who votes to remove your rights by simply writing down your name is by definition a tyrant who must be removed from office. Who writes down your name? A federal police force acting in secret. Secret police list. In America?

If Americans are subarmed, limited to bolt-action wood guns, or some other total infringement that leaves America in a completely unbalanced state, the shining light of freedom will have been extinguished. The jihadis will have won. With asymmetrical warfare underway, we should be teaching Americans how to shoot, and arming them better, not passing laws to confiscate their guns.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, they know this road. They are teaching people about how to shoot. Look:


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gungrabbers
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To: wrench

I remember the scene from the movie. I would point out that he did all that while OUTSIDE the tank, making him “Infantry” which actually makes the point recognized early on by Rommel and as Patton said, “I read your book, you bastard.”


61 posted on 06/18/2016 7:28:43 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Might of been from the TTC. The test had been done a few years before, but It seems possible that a test item got washed down to a river and out to sea. 200 inches of rain per year on that side of Panama.


62 posted on 06/18/2016 7:33:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Ditter

The big bags are 12 inches across. and yeah , it works.


63 posted on 06/18/2016 7:35:15 AM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Kozak

OK! Even tho you lost your guns in that terrible boating accident........they are still in good shape.........wherever they are! ; )


64 posted on 06/18/2016 7:37:59 AM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: marktwain

The Sisters is pretty far from any serious run off. The thing was pretty far from neutral buoyancy as well. I have always wondered if it was a private test or some larger entity. I figured it was private at the time because Panama did not even have LORAN back then so once placed finding it again would have been tough.


65 posted on 06/18/2016 7:38:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Any way, if anyone reading this DID the test, the reason you can’t find it is I took it. Just to let you know, it FAILED. Which surprised me, actually. The container did not. It was like the saltwater actually penetrated the PVC itself. No way was the ammo shoot able.


66 posted on 06/18/2016 7:42:53 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Ditter

I wouldn’t bet on it. Read what I have been posting.


67 posted on 06/18/2016 7:43:55 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t bury my guns. I don’t lose them during “boating accidents”. If anyone ever comes to take me, or my loved ones away, I will kill them. Then I will go and kill who sent them. Never Again!


68 posted on 06/18/2016 7:48:58 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: 2nd Amendment

If “them coming for your guns” isn’t the time to use those guns for their constiutional purpose, what would be the time?Why bury them and wait for things to get even worse? I don’t understand that line of reasoning.I suscribe to the old saying, “if it’s time to bury them, it’s time to dig them up”


69 posted on 06/18/2016 8:04:08 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: Elderberry

what caliber rubber bands does it use and how many?


70 posted on 06/18/2016 9:15:29 AM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: 2nd Amendment

The idea of an independent or self-reliant population terrifies those who wish to rule people (or take their money “administering” them)...


71 posted on 06/18/2016 10:08:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Repent and Believe

Thanks; the misinformation campaign suffered a real setback when low-information people got to witness the Baltimore police “standing down” to let the ferals loot. Even dimwits realize it can happen in their area as well...


72 posted on 06/18/2016 10:25:58 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: elcid1970

HVAC guy was here yesterday. His Dad flew Cobras in VN & had two shot down. I flew Hueys and was more fortunate.

Helicopters have always been vulnerable to small arms fire especially in slow flight.


A close friend of mine shot down his own Huey, while he was in it!

I was on the first operational flight of a brand new Huey. About 40 feet off the ground, the main rotor and gearbox locked up. It didn’t fly very well after that. A wild ride.


73 posted on 06/18/2016 10:53:19 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

You got two Huey stories there. Small arms going off inside the aircraft, that could happen. Keep muzzles pointed outside was the rule.

But that initial maintenance test flight! When you say rotor & gearbox locked up, do you mean the transmission or the 90 degree/45 degree gearboxes?

Did someone forget to check the sight gauges on the trans & tail rotor? How hard was the landing? I would like to know even though you must have made it out safely.


74 posted on 06/18/2016 11:13:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: wastoute

Interesting, but hard to believe, as Sched 40 pipe is used for water supply under pressure everywhere. Might be an interesting experiment though. Those "vapor barrier" bags are interesting, do not know the tech behind them or what they are designed to prevent.

75 posted on 06/18/2016 11:35:20 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Kaslin

True.

And by taking “everything,” that would necessarily mean all verbal, written, and implied “threats” — including the most mega-aggressive weapon of all: The Bible.


76 posted on 06/18/2016 11:45:41 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: doorgunner69

I gotta say, I was hoping for gold or maybe diamonds or something. Ammo was the last thing I expected. Retrospectively, it should not have been. I,too, was surprised. I can tell you with certainty that a packed in grease, sealed PVC pipe will not hold up for even a year or two in salt water. Fresh water, I don’t know but I would not put a $500 AR or whatever into a test of it. Folks that buried stuff back when BJ and Monica were in office may consider checking on their stuff. It may not be worth much anymore.


77 posted on 06/18/2016 12:45:46 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: elcid1970

No ‘small arms’ involved.

He was the last guy in the Huey during a hot evac and ended up in the door gunner position. They were taking some fire so he grabbed the 50 cal and started talking back.

About that time, the pilot seeing incoming heavy fire from the port side, lifts and rolls starboard to head out.

My friend, still firing, falls against the 50’s handles, pushing the muzzle up. And since someone had removed the interlocks, he chewed right through the rotor.

The pilot managed to rock it back onto the skids, and everyone made it out to another chopper.

He said he’s still waiting for a bill from the Army.

And far as mine, I don’t remember exactly what the main cause was. They had done an acceptance flight a couple of days before with no problems.

But when we lifted off the main rotor locked, and we of course, skewed sideways and rotated about 180 degrees before impacting on the right side nose, crushing in the cockpit.

I never got belted in and was thrown out before impact. Luckily I landed in a bunch of bushes and was only shook up.

By the time I got back to the wreckage it was on fire. We managed to get everyone out but the pilot before the flames took over, but I don’t think he survived the impact.

I ended up with burns on the left side of my face, the backs of my hands, and my lower legs. But lucky, compared to the alternative, I guess.


78 posted on 06/18/2016 3:17:02 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Wow. Glad you made it. Too bad for the pilot, though.

.50 cal door gun. Didn’t see that in 1971-72.

Don’t have any war stories other than taking fire.


79 posted on 06/18/2016 3:41:46 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: chaosagent

Damn dude. Hella story. God bless ya.


80 posted on 06/18/2016 3:46:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Chuck Norris finally met his match in Donald Trump.)
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