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The Pentagon's controversial plan to hire military leaders off the street
6/19/16

Posted on 06/19/2016 12:14:49 PM PDT by BBell

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To: BBell

I can reasonably see the logic, within the context of those specific disciplines mentioned, like cyber and logistics management. I would think it better to bring in those skilled workers as civilian contractors, instead of trying to make them officers. That might eliminate morale, compensation and chain of command issues.


21 posted on 06/19/2016 12:29:53 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: darkwing104
Not smart, Unless they paid their dues in the lower ranks they shouldn't be hired at an advanced grade. The only exception would be in the medical field.

This is specifically for bringing in people with technology skills (as has long been done with doctors, dentists, etc). They want to expand that to computer skills, and raise the top rank to O-6 (colonel).

Better would be to just have special high-pay technical specialist ranks.

22 posted on 06/19/2016 12:30:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: BBell
hire them as contractors wit NO rank or authority
23 posted on 06/19/2016 12:33:15 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They did a lot of this in World War II.

The United States has done this during all wars, but in World War II this was most often done for accomplished industrialists, scientists, engineers, and lawyers to mention a few. A few politically connected individuals were commissioned, but usually at lower ranks. Henry Cabot Lodge and Lyndon Johnson come to mind. During the Civil War, politicians were frequently commissioned as Colonels and Generals with field commands, especially if they were able to raise new regiments. Most of these were worthless in combat except to the enemy.

Of course, today's Administration never does anything without a political motive and often the political aim is the only purpose. The civilians in DoD and the Obama appointees in the White House despise the military and want to change their culture, their effectiveness, and their threat to their power. How better to do this than by inserting political operatives in key positions. This is exactly what they did with the judiciary and the educational system so you have to wonder why they have waited so long to do this.

24 posted on 06/19/2016 12:36:54 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BBell

General Zuckerberg..?


25 posted on 06/19/2016 12:39:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Paladin2
Even muzzie ziikiatrysts?

Doubtful, the last one was a little Zicotic...


26 posted on 06/19/2016 12:40:45 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: centurion316; PapaBear3625; catbertz

We already have a General Schedule (GS) payscale system which hires people in at high pay grades. I don’t see why we need to commission people in the active duty ranks.


27 posted on 06/19/2016 12:41:48 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Paladin2

?


28 posted on 06/19/2016 12:42:46 PM PDT by null and void (Hillary Milhouse Clinton: I'm not a c-c-c-crook! Crook! Yeah, that's the c-word I was looking for!)
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To: gaijin

General Zuckerberg would be placed in charge of MWR.


29 posted on 06/19/2016 12:42:49 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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Basics, such as how to wear a uniform or knowing whom

Basics, such as how to wear a uniform or knowing whom to salute, could prove confounding for midcareer civilians wooed into military service, critics of the plan argue. (Photo: Sgt. 1st Class Jon Soucy/Army)

30 posted on 06/19/2016 12:42:50 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They did a lot of this in World War II.

For instance, the French immigrant Georges Doriot. A professor at the Harvard Business School since 1926, he became a citizen in 1940 and was commissioned a lieutenant colonel in the Quartermaster Corps, at the request of a former student who was Quartermaster General. By the end of the war, Doriot was a brigadier general. After the war, he returned to Harvard and achieved considerable fame as a venture capitalist.

31 posted on 06/19/2016 12:43:13 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: null and void

I love your tagline.


32 posted on 06/19/2016 12:43:35 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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33 posted on 06/19/2016 12:45:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: BBell

Thank you


34 posted on 06/19/2016 12:49:18 PM PDT by null and void (Hillary Milhouse Clinton: I'm not a c-c-c-crook! Crook! Yeah, that's the c-word I was looking for!)
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To: BBell

I am sort of sympathetic. One of the most talented people I know went down to the recruiter in late 2004, height of the war in Iraq, and asked about his options. 39, great shape, two Ivy League degrees, three fluent languages, ran a desk of 50 guys on Wall Street and made seven figures consistently ... got told that he couldn’t get a commission but that maybe the National Guard could use him at E3 because of how many guys were being medicaled out after having their bells rung by IEDs on their deployment. In other words: we value your super-intelligence just up about to the point where it exceeds that of people with brain damage. That’s not the best use of human resources at war.


35 posted on 06/19/2016 1:00:20 PM PDT by only1percent ( who)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before that too. WWI.And before that.
Frederick Funston.


36 posted on 06/19/2016 1:14:57 PM PDT by buwaya
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Probably not as big as now. I wonder why you wouldn’t just bring these experts in as GS or Excepted Service appointees, maybe even as terms so they don’t have the expectation of a long-term job. At my place the military folks work for the civilians and vice versa just fine. Each side has to learn the others’ rules but that’s not too complicated.


37 posted on 06/19/2016 1:18:32 PM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: darkwing104

We seem to do just fine in the medical field by paying for medical school in return for service. I know personally a couple of docs who went this route, one stayed the full 20.


38 posted on 06/19/2016 1:18:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: only1percent

I hate to say it, but to get hired in the Army, you need to be specialized in a skill the Army needs and be able to pass the physical. All of the impressive credentials in the world won’t get someone in if they don’t have a needed skill set.


39 posted on 06/19/2016 1:19:49 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: FreedomPoster
By the grace of God I am alive and walking because of Military Doctors and I also know a few whos did 20 years.


40 posted on 06/19/2016 1:25:55 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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