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China's secret stealth sub surfaces: First images released of 'Shang' nuclear submarine
Dailymail.Com ^ | 23 June 2016 | Cheyenne Macdonald

Posted on 06/25/2016 7:11:58 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: mkjessup

Not sure about the rest, but, most if not all, China’s ICBMs are mobile, not fixed - as are many of Russia’s ICBMs - especially their newest versions. Only the US and its allies exclusively use fixed silo-based missiles aka easy to target.


41 posted on 06/26/2016 3:02:09 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They have to load their torpedoes through the torpedo tubes instead topside?


42 posted on 06/26/2016 3:44:16 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Cen-Tejas

Remember the Chinese sub in 2003 that was found on the surface with its entire crew dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_submarine_361


43 posted on 06/26/2016 3:48:15 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: goldstategop
Equipped with nuclear warheads, giving China a triad nuclear capability.

China already has ballistic missile submarines, though they don't deploy them on patrol regularly.

44 posted on 06/26/2016 4:07:17 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Blue Highway
sub made out of cheap pot metal like most chinese products sold in the US

And held together with some quality lead paint.

45 posted on 06/26/2016 4:31:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra
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To: 1rudeboy
We don’t have free trade with China

What do you mean by that? Are you saying that we haven't shipped much of our manufacturing to China? Clarify, and we'll go from there.

46 posted on 06/26/2016 4:52:04 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: publius911

You can simply go and do a search on Robbins flooring and you will find that chain stores sell the flooring.


47 posted on 06/26/2016 5:58:06 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz
Thanx a bunch. We set out to purchase any and everything we could for this home...American made.

We did pretty good. Appliances, furniture and so forth.

Must admit...illegals probably framed the house, concrete work and sheet rock...grrrrr.

48 posted on 06/26/2016 6:55:28 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Oh Ya. I have watched as the developers hired mexicans to do the building around here. They paid them less than minimum wage. Whats the Mexicans gonna do? Complin to someone when they are here illegally?

I built my house by myself with the help of friends from the UP of Michigan who are contractors.

BTW, most houses here in AZ have tile flooring, and the concrete cracks. So guess what happenes to that tile when the concrete cracks under it. I laid down subflooring over the concrete slab and put flooring over that.
Your choice of hardwood flooring is a darn good choice.


49 posted on 06/26/2016 7:10:41 AM PDT by crz
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To: castlegreyskull

U make my point!

Conceiving, Developing, building and operating safely and successfully the most up to date attack sub is damn near impossible for all except the US, Britain and Germany.

What’s their common denominator? Gobs of experience!!!

You could publish every plan or spec or diagram there is on one on the front page of the NYT and it all would be Greek to 99.99999999999 % of the worlds population!


50 posted on 06/26/2016 9:45:26 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Clarify? Me? You’ve switched from “free trade” to “offshore” in two comments. It’s not likely you understand the difference.


51 posted on 06/26/2016 11:13:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s been the result of these so called free trade agreements, hasn’t it?


52 posted on 06/26/2016 1:43:47 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I was a submarine officer and worked at Electric Boat for 5 years. I think you are right, they have a long way to be able to use a submarine correctly. Even if we give them the next copy of the VIRGINIA. However, they still have deadly submarines that can cause a lot of problems.


53 posted on 06/26/2016 2:53:31 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

If you say so.


54 posted on 06/26/2016 3:05:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cen-Tejas

Yep an them squinty eye, buck tooth Japanese fellers can’t see good enuff to fly neither and what’s more that 6.5 mm rifle they got ain’t powerful enuff to kill a white man....


55 posted on 06/26/2016 3:05:52 PM PDT by skepsel (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: castlegreyskull

I agree but with a minor “but”.

I have in my hand a Casio MS 805 calculator. I can rock and roll with it. Years ago though a friend gave me another device that some Engineers somewhere thought it would be funny to call a “calculator” when it truth it would perform ANY math calculation any PHD Math guy could dream up. Thusly, I could not use 10% of it.

Submarines, as you know better than I, are killing machines. The Chinese do not have the experience to conduct bluewater combat using arguably the most complex machine on earth thus it is likely they are following in our path and spending billions on device A when they should be spending those billions on device B.


56 posted on 06/26/2016 4:43:49 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: skepsel

LOL, I get your “point” but a 6.5 mm rifle, made 75 years ago, is a little bit out of this conversation since we are talking about arguably the most complicated and sophisticated war machine ever devised and operated by man.

That 6.5 mm rifle probably cost about 5 bucks (in million unit quantities) to build back then. I believe the most recent built US attack sub was around 10 billion.

Finally, as we all know, the squinty eyed Japs lost to our marines, soldiers and sailors.....just as a Chinese Sub Captain surely will too....................when the time comes.


57 posted on 06/26/2016 4:54:10 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas
I believe the most recent built US attack sub was around 10 billion.

Closer to $1.5 billion.

58 posted on 06/26/2016 4:57:51 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

Thanks for correcting my error.


59 posted on 06/26/2016 6:30:31 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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