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DON'T LET OLD PEOPLE VOTE!
OZY ^ | JUN 292016 | FIONA ZUBLINJUN

Posted on 06/30/2016 9:38:00 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Sixteen years. That’s how much longer the average British voter aged 65 and older will live, according to one analysis, which means that’s how long they’ll have to live with the outcome of last week’s Brexit referendum. Since older voters are estimated to have turned out in huge numbers — and voted overwhelmingly to leave the European Union — Britain’s graying generation is partly responsible for the biggest drop in the pound in decades, for the uncertainty in lives of millions of EU citizens in Britain and British citizens in the EU, and for bringing to power a group of conservative politicians who trafficked in racist rhetoric and outright lies to win.

There’s a decent argument to be made for denying suffrage to anyone old enough to collect Social Security.

So why do we even let old people vote? After all, there are minimum voting ages — 16- and 17-year-olds fought for the chance to vote in the EU referendum and were denied. Had that 1.46-million-member voting bloc been allowed to contribute, it would likely have swung the vote for “Remain” — 82 percent of them said they’d have voted to stay in the EU. When Scotland voted on its independence in 2014, 16- and 17-year-olds were given a vote, under the logic that it was their future being irrevocably altered. There’s a decent argument to be made for denying suffrage to anyone old enough to collect Social Security. Most are no longer working or raising children. Why should they create the future when they won’t be around to deal with the consequences?

Pragmatic, the idea is not. It’s hard to imagine any legislator introducing such a bill (we hear you, AARP!), or, for that matter, a court diluting or limiting the power of an older-person bloc. For starters, doing so would blatantly violate the U.S. Constitution, points out voting rights expert Nathan Persily: The 26th Amendment declares that voting cannot be “denied or abridged” on account of age, so long as the voter is 18 or older. And apart from that, such a proposal is mean and disrespectful; not all older people are shortsighted (we love you, Mom and Dad!). It also sounds a bit like millennial grousing. Instead of trying to dilute the power of an older voting bloc, why can’t young people turn out in greater numbers? Get thee to the polls, young people!

Outlandish though the idea of restricting the suffrage of elders is, a reasonable argument does exist that “there is bias against the youth vote in the system as currently constituted,” says Persily. Younger people tend to be more transient than older ones. Not necessarily in a bad way, mind you. Some are attending college and working summer jobs. Others are moving from job to job, or house to house, or partner to partner, in an effort to get settled and put down roots. Mobility, it turns out, is an important predictor of voter registration, and because young people move more, fewer are registered. Indeed, sometimes localities try to dilute the influence of college students by scheduling elections in the summer.

So why not make voting registration easier? In most countries, Persily says, voter registration is a state responsibility and the default status of citizens is “registered.” Most jurisdictions in the U.S., on the other hand, put the burden on its citizens to register. In 2012, the Pew Charitable Trusts estimated that 51 million eligible voters were not registered, a whopping 24 percent of the eligible population. A disproportionate number of those were young people.

Automatic voter registration is changing this fact — but in the meantime, consider this: Americans don’t get to vote in Mexican elections, and Canadians don’t get a say in who leads France, or whether France remains in the EU, or whether Paris’ arrondissements should be redistricted. The future is a country, and if you’re not going to be there, don’t expect to get to govern it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit; elderly; fionazublin; voting
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To: nickcarraway

No one under 40 should vote. Exceptions only for honorable discharges from the military.


21 posted on 06/30/2016 9:54:49 AM PDT by marron
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Don’t let stupid people vote.


22 posted on 06/30/2016 9:55:19 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: nickcarraway

Have a friend in Australia that said the same thing....OLD PEOPLE SCREWED THE YOUNG KIDS!!! OMG!


23 posted on 06/30/2016 9:55:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: nickcarraway

The answer to your question is very simple, Fiona. We’ve earned the right, and if you try to take it away from us we’ll shoot you. Next stupid question?


24 posted on 06/30/2016 9:58:20 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: All

Until women are eligible for the draft, their voting age should be raised to 21 with men remaining eligible at 18.


25 posted on 06/30/2016 9:59:55 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: nickcarraway

These idiots don’t realize that in 16 years, the middle aged voters will become old voters and they’ll probably vote exactly the same way old voters usually vote :D


26 posted on 06/30/2016 9:59:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

The mewing whine of Fiona-the-Millenial. Can’t blame her. She grew up her whole life being told how perfect she is in every way.

Now something didn’t turn out the way she wants; it is “unexpected”. In her mind, impossible. Someone is to blame for this! Someone needs to be held accountable and made to pay!


27 posted on 06/30/2016 10:00:22 AM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: struggle

Marxist worldview established in the brainwashed useful idiots who lived in an irrational, programmed, artificial world their WHOLE life and are incapable of Wisdom (knowing anything in Reality about Natural Laws (Common Sense).

It is the mantra of Marxism to kill anyone over the age of 30 (because they may at that point have a chance to be awakened to the Lies and Reality.) The Matrix (complete control of the Mind) can only be breached with experience and Wisdom (truth) and young people today have no Real Life experiences and are made completely dependent on the system.....they can’t even “think” critically-—nothing in their heads but mush.


28 posted on 06/30/2016 10:00:46 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: proust

That’s a nice sentiment, but they’re basically admitting to vote fraud for all the world to see... you’re not supposed to vote if you are dead!


29 posted on 06/30/2016 10:00:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: hal ogen
Don’t let anyone vote.

Let them vote, just don't let them count the vote.

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. Joseph Stalin

If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."
Mark Twain -


30 posted on 06/30/2016 10:02:48 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump kills PC-Hillary kills USA-Pick one.)
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To: proust

Old people, what have they ever done for us?


Reminded me of a very public interaction between a 20 something and an older gentleman.

I’ll need to paraphrase, but it went something like this;

20 something saying in response to the Older man “ Your generation doesn’t understand, we grew up with technology, computers, the Internet, Smart phones and the rest, you didn’t”

The older man replied “My generation invented those technologies”.


31 posted on 06/30/2016 10:02:54 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: nickcarraway

What she’s really saying is: Don’t let old, Christian, white people vote.....................


32 posted on 06/30/2016 10:03:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: nickcarraway

Is Ms. Zublinjun British or what?


33 posted on 06/30/2016 10:03:40 AM PDT by Twinkie (Cowards die a thousand deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.)
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To: pfflier
Raise the voting age to 35 minimum where by then, people have families and make more pragmatic decisions based on experience and social success.

Harry Truman was asked about lowering the voting age to 18 replied, Make more sense to raise it to 25.

34 posted on 06/30/2016 10:04:40 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump kills PC-Hillary kills USA-Pick one.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, she's an idiot..................

35 posted on 06/30/2016 10:04:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: nickcarraway

My dad was a conservative republican until he started receiving social security. Then he became a raving liberal democrat.


36 posted on 06/30/2016 10:05:34 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: nickcarraway

Now I know why lions eat their young...


37 posted on 06/30/2016 10:05:37 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: nickcarraway
The people who should not be allowed to vote are those who receive unearned benefits from Government, because they have an obvious conflict of interest--are effectively bribed. This is something that does need to be addressed.

See Universal Suffrage.

Incidentally, anyone who understands the disadvantage of entrusting power to a centralized bureaucracy, the advantages in building on a successful heritage, and a pride in following in the footsteps of noble role models; will realize that Britain's exit from the EU is profoundly beneficial to her people's future.

The writer is not just shallow; he has reality upside down. One very confused pseudo-intellectual puppy.

38 posted on 06/30/2016 10:06:03 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: nickcarraway

Her name is Fiona Zublin.


39 posted on 06/30/2016 10:08:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway
In America, you know, the "old" people are the ones who "cling to their guns, Bibles, and . . . ." whatever remains of the remembrance of the meaning of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, (Sarcasm) according to their current leader.

"Progressives" may believe they have appropriately "erased" the minds of those "imprisoned" in their coercively controlled public schools of the past several decades.

40 posted on 06/30/2016 10:08:39 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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