Posted on 07/03/2016 2:45:08 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Hillary Clinton, courting young voters and the broader Democratic base, has promised to one-up President Obama on climate change, vowing to produce a third of the nation's electricity from renewable sources by 2027, three years faster than Mr. Obama, while spending billions of dollars to transform the energy economy.
A half-billion solar panels will be installed by 2020, she has promised, seven times the number today, and $60 billion will go to states and cities to develop more climate-friendly infrastructure, such as public transportation and energy-efficient buildings. She would put the United States on track to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent from 2005 levels by 2050. And, she says, she could achieve all that without new legislation from Congress.
But Mrs. Clinton has avoided mention of the one policy that economists widely see as the most effective way to tackle climate change — and one that would need Congress's assent: putting a price or tax on carbon dioxide emissions.
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Let me guess, Solar City is a huge Cancklebeast donor?
And in 5 to 20 years they will be worn out and turned into thousands of tons of toxic non-biodegradable waste.
At which time they will be replaced by new nuclear or fossil fuel power generating plants.
Then and China. All those shoddy panels will come from China and not only will they be outdated as they are installed but they will become a huge hazardous waste pile 20 years from now.
Damn I should have read your post first.
For the globalist, CO2, carbon dioxide, is bad. It is melting the earth and we need a United Nations charter to coordinate the reduction of CO2 amongst all nations.
Our congress relinquished some of their law making to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for greenhouse gasses. Our courts determined that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
That gives Gina McCarthy, the head of the EPA, unprecedented powers to mold our country.
Manufacturing requires power, power is provided by power plants that create CO2. Here in California we had an Assembly Bill 32 that would fine and regulate manufacturing, take that money and offset the greenhouse gasses, in this case CO2. That money went to solar plants and wind farms. Now it is used for “sustainable cities” and the High-Speed-Rail.
Some people gave a report:
Driving and the Built Environment
In that report they laid out their plans for us minions. We are to give up our cars and rely on public transportation. Since light rail is on a track, we are to build high-density housing along those tracks. Then they will build a high-speed-rail system from city to city. Most of the construction contracts will go to international corporations and China.
That policy was picked up by our Transportation Secretary at the time:
U.S. Department of Transportation
Transportation for a New Generation
Strategic Plan Fiscal years 2012-2016
As pointed out in “Driving and the Built Environment”, it would be hard to get people to move into apartments. But another study said that young people and foreigners would, so they went with it.
Cities overlooked their zoning codes and would allow developers to build higher and denser if they designated some of the housing to the disadvantaged, or people that couldn’t show proof of employment. It wouldn’t look right to give that housing to an illegal, but if they had a kid it would be ok.
So now we have these fancy apartment buildings built over retailers where the rent is high so that they can subsidize the disadvantaged. It works, but that is because they have nice restaurants and retailers and I doubt that it is the people living in the apartments above that can afford to eat out every night.
We had to import people and entice them to have kids to live in subsidized apartments to appease the environmentalists. Then we had to find people with money to pay the difference. Now our courts and HUD (Housing and Urban Development) have decided that every neighborhood needs housing for the poor and when we build housing for the poor, we must have walkways and bike paths take us to the bus stop and busses must come by every 20 minutes. Every neighborhood in the nation is to report their income inequality to HUD every year.
Cities have always tried to ease traffic, they have always said they would synchronize the traffic lights, but never have. Now these dedicated bus lanes and light rail lines are to be lined with high-density housing and the fact that they are creating a barrier to traffic is purposeful. The environmentalist don’t like cars.
And it’s all because of CO2.
Here’s where we find out that this is social engineering and has nothing to do with the environment. Products made in China, India and third world countries don’t have environmental regulations. They pollute into the same atmosphere we all share.
Those container ships in the ports of Los Angeles produce over half of our pollution. We’re not talking about CO2 here, we are talking smog, acid rain, SO2, lead, they use the dirtiest fuel available and that pollution is along their entire route across the oceans. There are over 90,000 container ships and the larger ones produce enough power to provide for a city of 90,000 people.
CO2 made it possible for an unelected EPA agency head to make law and manipulate manufacturing, farming, mining, trade, housing, and immigration. And our congress let her.
Patrick Moore and James Lovelock, real scientist, say that CO2 is too low, it is at 400 ppm while the optimum would be 2,000 ppm. Most of our CO2 is sequestered in ocean sediments and only point one percent is in the atmosphere. The lowest it has been was 180 ppm and that is when our planet begins to die.
James Lovelock:
“I don’t think people have noticed that, but it’s got all the sort of terms that religions use… the greens use guilt. That just shows how religious greens are. You can’t win people round by saying they are guilty for putting (carbon dioxide) in the air.”
Patrick Moore:
“A powerful convergence of interests among key elites supports and drives the climate catastrophe narrative. Environmentalists spread fear and raise donations; politicians appear to be saving the Earth from doom; the media has a field day with sensation and conflict; scientists and science institutions raise billions in public grants, create whole new institutions, and engage in a feeding frenzy of scary scenarios; businesses want to look green and receive huge public subsidies for projects that would otherwise be economic losers, such as large wind farms and solar arrays. Even the Pope of the Catholic Church has weighed in with a religious angle. Lost in all these machinations is the indisputable fact that the most important thing about CO2 is that it is essential for all life on Earth and that before humans began to burn fossil fuels, the atmospheric concentration of CO2 was heading in a very dangerous direction for a very long time. Surely, the most “dangerous” change in climate in the short term would be to one that would not support sufficient food production to feed our own population.”
Anthony Watts:
“This study looks at the positive environmental effects of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, a topic which has been well established in the scientific literature but which is far too often ignored in the current discussions about climate change policy. All life is carbon based and the primary source of this carbon is the CO2 in the global atmosphere. As recently as 18,000 years ago, at the height of the most recent major glaciation, CO2 dipped to its lowest level in recorded history at 180 ppm, low enough to stunt plant growth.
This is only 30 ppm above a level that would result in the death of plants due to CO2 starvation. It is calculated that if the decline in CO2 levels were to continue at the same rate as it has over the past 140 million years, life on Earth would begin to die as soon as two million years from now and would slowly perish almost entirely as carbon continued to be lost to the deep ocean sediments. The combustion of fossil fuels for energy to power human civilization has reversed the downward trend in CO2 and promises to bring it back to levels that are likely to foster a considerable increase in the growth rate and biomass of plants, including food crops and trees. Human emissions of CO2 have restored a balance to the global carbon cycle, thereby ensuring the long-term continuation of life on Earth.”
We are so lucky to have leadership like Hillary poised to take over from the feckless Islmopologist currently squatting in the White-Privilege House.
And what a great public service these bards at the New York Times are providing essentially advertising free to the rubes in fly over White-Privilege Land.
Hillary's statement about achieving a significant increase in the number PV solar panels deployed is not controversial.
The cost of PV electricity has fallen and the cost of batteries to store it is also falling.
Now, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Institutional Investors, Fund Management COs are wanting to invest in renewable projects.
Very cogent post. It’s amazing that we are on this suicide as a population and the US as a nation. That our scientist allow the EPA, and other similar agencies internationally, to conflate SO2 with CO2 is going to destroy us all.
Yeah, a carbon tax. This is our country’s largest concern. This might fix the sun’s impact on our planet. It definitely will fix her and her friend’s pocketbooks though. Praying America wakes. It’s not looking likely. If this snooze fest goes on for another four to eight years, there won’t be anything left to pray for but enough food to eat each day. People will be using solar panels to roll bread dough on.
“the established science of human-caused climate change”
Read at the end of the article.
I want that 5 minutes of my life back.
Clinton and Podesta share Gruber’s sentiment regarding “the stupidity of the American voter”. It’s only natural for them to promise a CO2-free future with no additional taxes.
Unlike the health care mandates, however, the US Supreme Court has already authorized a future Clinton Administration to do this: the EPA can issue any rules that it sees fit regarding CO2. She doesn’t need taxes and apppropriations; the EPA is free to mandate and to prohibit at will. Future EPA mandates can be bad enough to make a new carbon tax and appropriations for Clinton cronies in the green energy scam look like the only way to escape an energy catastrophe. Feckless Republicans in Congress will get their instructions from the chamber of commerce types and will eventually play along, just as they eventually did with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, and ObamaCare.
Does anyone know how far along the theoretical performance curve solar panels are?
I had an acquaintance who, somewhere between five and ten years ago, opined that “the government” should have forced huge investments in solar panels. He lived in CA, of course.
I pointed out that heavily investing too early in the technology’s development was one of the most certain ways to waste money. Maybe, I said, solar panel and battery technology would SOMEday be there, but it wasn’t at that time.
How is it now? I see panels sprouting up at every dump, no doubt due to government subsidies.
And, I don’t think batteries are even close to being able to power the US through the night.
Donor is not the correct term
Kickback is closer to the truth
Solar city should be viewed or thought of as a conduit or piping system that takes in large amounts of subsidy money that is then diverted through various corporations to the politically favored.
Solar City and Soylendra are the Clinton Foundation on a much smaller scale
the democrat party is a criminal enterprise
And everyone of those solar panels will be bought from a Chinese company who donated to Clinton.
We, the idiot taxpayers of Gnu Yak have “invested” $750 Million into building a plant for Solar City in Buffalo, because it was the only section of Upstate that voted to re-elect Prince Andrew of Cuomo. Now Solar City is reneging on their “commitment...” And that is because of Preet Baharara...Wish he would also investigate the “insider trading” that happened while Herself was Secty of Snakes...
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Anyone who thinks that there is no carbon tax down the road for a PIAPS admin needs to look at a certain bridge I have for sale. She is trustworthy after all no?
We will build a really big tower and hang up a cloth. It will make it nighttime by closing the curtain.
Piece of cake.
[obvious sarcasm tag.]
She is an absolute menace to this nation.
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