[Steve_Seattle]

"Such patriotism requires taking on a fair share of the burdens of keeping America going — including a willingness to pay taxes."

Oh, so he wants the 30% of Americans who pay no income tax to start contributing? My total tax bill (income/property/sales/etc) is upwards of $12,000 a year on a retirement income of under $70,000.

[HomerBohn]

What I hate is having to pay tax on money I had the wherewithal to save over the years. They tell me how much to take out each year so it will be exposed to taxes.

And as far as the social insecurity is concerned, I paid the max all the years I worked and now I have to pay tax on 100% of this Ponzi scheme. Had I been allowed to just take MY contribution and invest in the lowest paying mutual fund I’d have an extra 3-4 million dollars today.