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Full title: Off-duty NYPD cop shoots man dead after alleged road rage attack in Brooklyn; state attorney general will probe use of deadly force
1 posted on 07/05/2016 3:52:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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He didn’t “intend” to....


2 posted on 07/05/2016 3:54:53 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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If it was Joe Citizen, they’d be in jail pending an investigation.

Plus, show he had an “intention” to kill. Maybe his “intention” was simply to wound.


3 posted on 07/05/2016 3:56:06 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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Better to be judged than buried.

Sucks to be Small.

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4 posted on 07/05/2016 4:01:56 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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In “use of force continuum” training a punch to the head is considered lethal force.

If the bad guy takes it to that level you may employ whatever force is necessary to end the threat.


5 posted on 07/05/2016 4:02:07 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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It is not very smart to rush up to a guys window and punch him in the head. More then one persons has been killed by punch on the head.

Here is some information one why a punch can be deadly force.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-punch-to-head-is-potential-deadly.html

If you watch television and the movies, you might get the impression that a punch to the head is no big deal. That is not true. A punch to the head is a very serious attack. It can disable. It can maim. It can kill. The head is a vulnerable target, which is why an attacker aims for it. I first became aware of the deadly potential of one punch to the head in the 1970’s, from a long forgotten news story. Later, the son of a close friend killed a man with one punch. He was eventually found not guilty of manslaughter, but only after a long and expensive legal fight.

We owe a debt of gratitude to Steve Kokette of Madison, Wisconsin for producing One Punch Homicide, which documents the surprising numbers of one punch homicides that occur in the United States and around the world. From simple Internet searches, he has compiled a list of 114 one punch homicides in the United States. I am sure that the list is far from complete


6 posted on 07/05/2016 4:02:12 PM PDT by riverrunner
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So basically, you’re supposed to let a guy punch you in the head as many times as he wants. You can’t use a gun to defend yourself.

If he’s punching you while you’re sitting in your car, the most you can do is try to close the window and drive off.


7 posted on 07/05/2016 4:07:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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Daily News.

Enough said.

This is a reprehensible series of reports.

You are stopped at a red light, a man comes and attacks you.

What do you do?


8 posted on 07/05/2016 4:09:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The policeman should have just sat or stood there and let this tattooed ex-convict beat the crap out of him!


9 posted on 07/05/2016 4:10:10 PM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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Reminds me of the early video where the fat black woman got the 360lb felon to come into the pizza parlor and attack the guy on the phone. Probably one of the first WorldStarHipHop type videos on the internet.

That felon should have been shot.


10 posted on 07/05/2016 4:12:23 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal (Senator Scott Brown or Governor Pat McCrory for Donald Trump's VP)
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“Off-duty NYPD cop shoots man dead after alleged road rage attack in Brooklyn”

How about:

Off-duty NYPD cop shoots violent criminal dead while being attacked in Brooklyn?


12 posted on 07/05/2016 4:15:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said... "We are comfortable, based on the preliminary investigation, that this was a road-rage incident," he said.

But whose road rage? The shooter, or the guy who charged the car and started punching through the window? And what is the next stage after rage?

13 posted on 07/05/2016 4:15:53 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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This looks like one of those situations where we are not going to know what actually happened from any early news reports. This needs to be investigated and all of the witnesses interviewed. That said, in New York use of lethal force in self defense is normally only allowed if you are in reasonable fear for your life and retreat is not an option. (Exception for your home where you do not have to retreat in the face of an attack.)


16 posted on 07/05/2016 4:18:03 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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“”Even if the man did attack you, roll up your window, drive off — hold yourself to a higher standard,” said Jermaine Gabriel, 40. “

Do these people even know what a higher standard is?

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17 posted on 07/05/2016 4:18:11 PM PDT by Mears (Afrocentrism is "the invention of tradition"-----Hobsbawm)
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Wayne Isaacs, 37, a three-year NYPD cop.

At age 37 a bit long on tooth for a third year?

Most likely he was in uniform? (after shift) And the jamoke starts punching?

19 posted on 07/05/2016 4:20:13 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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Would this be front-page news if he had been shot by another black? It wouldn’t even make a byline in the metro section. I just wish that blacks would wake up and realize they’re being played for fools by the leftist establishment.


20 posted on 07/05/2016 4:21:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Moderate Muslims are the fans cheering for blood during a hockey game)
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Looks to me like the off-duty cop did what I would do in that same situation. Nothing wrong at all.


21 posted on 07/05/2016 4:22:13 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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I’ll just note that some cops exhibit poor but aggressiving driving in their cop cars while on duty.


22 posted on 07/05/2016 4:25:10 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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More than one pavement ape has sucker punched victims that died from it.

Sounds like a good shoot.


23 posted on 07/05/2016 4:25:31 PM PDT by soycd
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Can we assume that the cop is white?
27 posted on 07/05/2016 4:33:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (What Did Loretta and BillyBob Discuss For 30 Minutes In Phoenix? Grandchildren?)
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My default position is to be highly suspicious when a cop kills a citizen, but in this case there appear to be more than enough mitigating factors to perceive it as prima facie legitimate.

I will, however, note that a regular citizen in NYC wouldn’t have the option of using a firearm in self defense.


29 posted on 07/05/2016 4:34:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Wisdom is doing due diligence before forming an opinion)
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