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Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect
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Posted on 07/08/2016 6:13:58 PM PDT by Pollard

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To: dragnet2
So the county he was shot was in MN right? And if so he did have a valid permit, right?

Yes, that's correct. The Mississippi River runs through MN. It's not a state border, until further southeast when it meets with the St. Croix river.

121 posted on 07/08/2016 9:47:15 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: MtnClimber
What I have not seen are details on the crimes and if any were originally felonies plead down to misdemeanors..

They were all traffic violations: http://www.kare11.com/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-racial-profiling-in-minnesota/266814958

Those records show Castile had 79 different charges – all of them vehicle and traffic stop related. More than half of them – 48 – eventually were dismissed.

Castile was found guilty 31 times of misdemeanors or petty misdemeanors. The charges included driving on a suspended license, no proof of insurance, and seatbelt and parking violations.

None of Castile’s charges or convictions involve guns, violence, threats against or fleeing police.

122 posted on 07/08/2016 9:50:54 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking

Got it. I’m just not familiar with that neck of the woods.

Thanks.


123 posted on 07/08/2016 9:54:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: justlurking

I must say, if this cop is found innocent and they have good evidence or proof, it will expose a whole lot of folks and what they’ve said today and over the past several days.

Remember, this MN event is what the Dallas terrorist stated set him off.


124 posted on 07/08/2016 10:01:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The GF stated that he got pulled over for a broken tail light. He really got pulled over because he looked like the person on the video of a convenience store armed robbery just a few blocks away and only a few days earlier.


125 posted on 07/08/2016 10:03:10 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Facial hair in pics does’t match either. The two do look similar, but there was more beard in the latter photo.


126 posted on 07/08/2016 10:08:46 PM PDT by Figment
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To: dragnet2
I must say, if this cop is found innocent and they have good evidence or proof, it will expose a whole lot of folks and what they’ve said today and over the past several days.

I don't know if we'll ever know what happened for sure. There's no body cam video, and the dash cam may not show anything because Castile never got out of the car.

But, I think this was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and looking like the wrong person. The victim didn't realize the officer feared he was a robbery suspect, and the police officer didn't realize the victim was trying to do the right thing.

Rather than trying to lay blame, I'd rather focus on training for both sides to prevent escalation in a similar situation in the future.

127 posted on 07/08/2016 10:11:45 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: MtnClimber
The GF stated that he got pulled over for a broken tail light. He really got pulled over because he looked like the person on the video of a convenience store armed robbery just a few blocks away and only a few days earlier.

I think someone else pointed this out, but it's likely the "broken tail light" was simply a ruse to avoid spooking the driver.

Remember, the officer thought he might be a robbery suspect. Would it be advisable to walk up and confront someone that way?

128 posted on 07/08/2016 10:14:31 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: Pollard
Is this true? You mean a lying witch is the cause of all this?
129 posted on 07/08/2016 10:16:13 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: justlurking
I think someone else pointed this out, but it's likely the "broken tail light" was simply a ruse to avoid spooking the driver. Remember, the officer thought he might be a robbery suspect. Would it be advisable to walk up and confront someone that way?

Yes, you have a point there. We will have to wait to find out if the gun om his right leg is the same as the one in the robbery video.

130 posted on 07/08/2016 10:20:08 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Yes, you have a point there. We will have to wait to find out if the gun om his right leg is the same as the one in the robbery video.

Do you really think a 33-year old school cafeteria supervisor with no prior serious criminal record and a CCW permit actually might commit a robbery?

Violent crime by CHL and CCW holders is so rare, it's statistically zero.

131 posted on 07/08/2016 10:22:35 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking
Do you really think a 33-year old school cafeteria supervisor with no prior serious criminal record and a CCW permit actually might commit a robbery? Violent crime by CHL and CCW holders is so rare, it's statistically zero.

I don't know. The robbery person looked like him, but it could be mistaken identity. Criminals without felony convictions could apply for CCW permits. Even DoD personnel with security clearances have committed mass murder, often in the name of islam. The police have not released information so we only have one side of the story except for the robbery footage.

132 posted on 07/08/2016 10:36:23 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
The robbery person looked like him, but it could be mistaken identity.

I agree there is some resemblance. But, I didn't see any distinguishing marks that confirmed it was the same person. If the police scanner tape is legit, Castile was stopped simply because his nose looked the same.

Criminals without felony convictions could apply for CCW permits.

Certain misdemeanors are also disqualifying, depending on the state. In mine, misdemeanor assault is only one of them.

But again, I'll state it is extremely rare for CCW/CHL holders to commit a violent crime. And while Castile had a poor driving record, he had no adult record of any other crime. Once you get to age 33, it's extremely unlikely for someone to turn to crime.

None of these statistics mean that Castile could not have committed a robbery. But, I find it incredible that so many people just can't admit that they jumped to the wrong conclusion on such flimsy evidence and innuendo.

133 posted on 07/08/2016 10:52:40 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: MtnClimber

If a LEO sees someone fitting a description of a robbery suspect and pulls the vehicle over, I can assure you the officer would not walk up and tell the occupants that as the reason they were pulled over.

They’d use a pretext...Something like “We pulled you over because your light is out”. You never want to walk up and alert a possibly suspect like that. A big no no.


134 posted on 07/08/2016 10:56:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: justlurking
There's no body cam video, and the dash cam may not show anything because Castile never got out of the car.

Audio still might exist because many cops carry their own small recorders for traffic stops for their own protection. They do this for real good reasons.

135 posted on 07/08/2016 11:00:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Pollard

Cop was a small Hispanic guy, Doubt he get much respect at the station. This is his big chance to be the hero.


136 posted on 07/08/2016 11:15:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: justlurking
Those records show Castile had 79 different charges – all of them vehicle and traffic stop related.

I don't know if that equates to 79 separate traffic stops, but if so, that's a lot! One can collect multiple charges from one stop, but even so, I'd say it's still a lot. Seems strange, to me, and something to be explained.
137 posted on 07/09/2016 1:01:31 AM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Popman
That's part of the problem - we see what the MSM and others wnat us to see in order to incite us, then we decide to cerebrate" by doing the "shoulda coulda" crap without realizing we don't have enough info to have a clue if they did what was right or not.

I guess a lot of us like the "shoulda coulda" bits because they get to spout and sound cerebral without consequences if they are dead wrong - they can later just say they're glad the cop did the right thing or belabor how they were right about the dirty cop....

I guess a lot of us are budding Obama's in that regard.....

138 posted on 07/09/2016 3:24:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Pollard

One of the major enemies in this country is the media


139 posted on 07/09/2016 4:34:17 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (without the 1st we have no second)
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To: Theo
Anyone who has a strong opinion is speaking out of ignorance.

My post: “I still think the LEO was a bit trigger happy...”

Yes, my post was a strongly worded unequivocal no hold bar opinion, maybe I should have used all caps to express my intent and used words like "know" instead of "think" or "extremely" instead of "a bit" .../ S

“I still think KNOW the LEO was a bit EXTREMELY trigger happy...”

Happy now...?

You are correct, I don't know what happened before the shooting, that's why it's called an opinion, not ignorance...

You can now jump off you high horse...

140 posted on 07/09/2016 5:41:35 AM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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