Posted on 07/23/2016 7:59:52 AM PDT by blueyon
Air conditioners and refrigerators pose as big a threat to "life on the planet" as the threat of terrorism, Secretary of State John Kerry said Friday.
Kerry was in Vienna negotiating a global climate deal to phase out chemicals used as refrigerants in basic household and commercial appliances such as air conditioning and refrigerators, called hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs. The chemicals are a potent source of greenhouse gas emissions that many scientists blame for contributing to global warming.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
That one grain of rice must have damaged his brain.
The progressives want to eliminate any and all progress that humankind has made in science and technology, including everything from medical to consumer products. Calling them ‘progressive’ is a little backwards. They are actually ‘regressive’.
Truth is R-22 did not pose a threat to ozone depletion.
No matter the solution the insane left is never satisfied.
John Kerry is just as bad as ISIS.
The point is we're always waiting around for someone else to do something, and when that someone doesn't win, or turns RINO, we wait for someone else to do something. Time for us to do something for ourselves. RTF now!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!
Yesterday in Minnesota, one bank’s time/temp read 100 degrees. Not only are seniors suffering with heat and humidity, most of us Irish/Swedish/Finlanders and are hating this weather.
Thi sweltering humidity does remind me that I never want to go to hell, where there is perpetual heat...
So don't call them that. I never have, and every time I hear those a** clowns O' Reilly and Beck do it, I want to puke.
There's no progress in liberalism...or Statism, Socialism, Communism, Leftism, whatever else you call them. If you hear someone else call them progressives, correct them. How are we supposed to win the debate if we let the enemy define the terms?
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!
Every 10 or 15 years they phase out a refrigerant and phase in a new one that is supposed to help the environment. It requires a brand new platform of course, and they just did it again about 3 or 4 years ago! Its like the air conditioning lobby is creating a business cycle for themselves. This seems odd because its too early after they just did it recently.
You NEVER know. If the air-conditioners are banned for we “surface dwellers” I know a resourceful and succesful AMERICAN businessman who has been in the news lately who could well find a new customer in the MOST unlikely place.
Maybe HELL would actually “freeze over”.
Maybe HELL would actually “freeze over”.
I don’t care, if it does freeze over, I still wouldn’t want to go there. :-)
A lobotomy wasn't necessary -- he was born brainless.
Won’t the air conditioners come in handy to filter out some of the fallout from NORK and Iranian atom bombs?
Of course you wouldn’t want to go there.....neither would I.
But then the terrible punishment of Hell would be having to live with those “neighbors” already there.
That in itelf would constitute a “cruel and unusual punishment”, buy one well deserved for the occupants.
WE are heading up (but not for a good while).
You are absolutely correct. Freon AKA CFCs were once used as a hairspray propellant and to my knowledge no one was complaining about health issues from it that I am aware of. CFCs were of course replaced with HFCs which break down more quickly in the atmosphere before they can reach the ozone layer. The left has a schizophrenic view of Ozone. It is considered a dangerous pollutant at lower levels in the atmosphere. However ozone in the upper levels of the atmosphere must be protected because it filters out UV radiation.
The Ozone “hole” over Antarctica was first discovered in 1985 but it is now known that it is a cyclic phenomena that most likely started long before people began using CFCs. It's size seems to have little if any correlation with the release of Freon into the atmosphere. None of the extreme claims that were made to scare politicians into agreeing to the “Montreal Protocol” in 1987 came to pass. By the early 1990s long before the “Protocol” had any effect on the amount of Freon being produced or released into the atmosphere the “hole” had shrank significantly. The thickness of the “Ozone layer” has varied little. The measured level of UVB reaching the earth's surface has not had any statistically significant trend at all.
Al Gore in his 1992 book “Earth in the Balance” claimed that because of the Antarctic ozone hole, “hunters now report finding blind rabbits” and “fisherman catch blind salmon.” This was all shown to be nonsense, so he doubled down on a new hysteria in his book and movie an inconvenient truth.
Strangely enough one of the biggest proponents of replacing CFCs with HFCs was Dupont whose patents just happened to be expiring.
He’s fear-mongering! Alarmist! /sarc
Kerry is Vienna wiener...
So far the air conditioner hasn’t made any hostile moves. The refrigerator on the other hand bears watching. (Either Kerry was misquoted or he is indeed the cornerstone of stupidity.)
I totally agree. Here’s and excerpt you may also agree with.
Potential options include “natural” refrigerants such as carbon dioxide (CO2), hydrocarbons (HC), and ammonia (NH3) as well as HFOs and HFO/HFC blends. All involve significant trade-offs among GWP, energy efficiency, safety, and cost. Environmental policy must consider the indirect effects of increased CO2 emissions for less efficient refrigerants, not just the direct global warming (GWP) of the refrigerant. We must insist on using metrics such as Total Equivalent Warming Impact (TEWI) that balance refrigerant direct GWP, charge level, leakage emissions, and efficiency of the refrigerant in actual systems. This allows the best possible comparison of refrigerants for each application. In the right policy environment, we can achieve reduced environmental impact and increase efficiency. This will probably require increased differentiation of application-specific refrigerant choices that are associated with somewhat higher first costs but very attractive life cycle costs with acceptable safety and environmental impacts.
Source:
http://aceee.org/files/proceedings/2010/data/papers/1933.pdf
Fortunately, eating spoiled food is not bad for people.
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