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Turkey to transit Russian natural gas to Europe via Turkish Stream pipeline - Erdogan
Russia Today ^ | 9 August 2016

Posted on 08/09/2016 9:14:11 PM PDT by amorphous

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To: amorphous

https://www.rt.com/business/355245-turkey-restart-tukish-stream/


21 posted on 08/10/2016 12:35:11 AM PDT by maggief
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To: amorphous

Good. Let the Russians blackmail a non-Christian country for a change.


22 posted on 08/10/2016 1:01:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: amorphous

“The Russian President added that the number of Russian tourists visiting Turkey will soon return to pre-crisis levels, and that the sale of tour packages to Turkey resumed in June.”

I have my doubts about that. Risk to tourists in Erdogan’s Turkey will continue to increase. Erdogan is an Islamist. That tiger will never change stripes.


23 posted on 08/10/2016 2:43:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: doc maverick
"The Saudi king and Obama are soiling themselves......now we know a little more about who was trying to pull off that coup."

Interesting Idea D.M....

What makes the Greeks look even more foolish is if they need a source on Natural Gas it is right off their coast and the owners are the Israeli's. They are not up to speed yet with their off shore finds, however I see this as Putin trying to snag Greece as customer before the Israeli's do.

How thuggish of him, and how stoopid of the Greeks, I'd rather do business with Israel than with Putin...

24 posted on 08/10/2016 2:58:17 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: amorphous

And the real reason the coup was attempted comes out.

Vlad wins again.


25 posted on 08/10/2016 3:15:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Also Russians are much poorer than they used to be now that the oil prices dropped. Their average salary is little over $100 a week. Poor people don’t travel and aren’t very profitable tourists.


26 posted on 08/10/2016 4:00:55 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Agree.


27 posted on 08/10/2016 4:11:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dp0622

But they HAD to take into account ALL possibilities during planning, no?

Well, no pun, seems they also overlooked the world wide glut of natural gas. Listened to a conference call yesterday from a company drilling along the west coast of africa, they are estimating they are developing a50 trillion CF dome of gas that could go to 150 trillion CF. It will be converted to LNG when functioning in a year or two. Africa a bit closer to Europe than is the coast of Texas/Louisiana and I suspect with less eco restrictions.


28 posted on 08/10/2016 5:41:28 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: LukeL

Yes it does! Some Prophecy experts point to Psalm 83 as a prerequisite for the Ezekiel 38 war since Lebanon, Syria, and a few other immediate neighbors are not mentioned in Ezekiel 38.

Could it be that they are already destroyed like Isaiah 17:1 says?


29 posted on 08/10/2016 5:50:15 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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To: amorphous

It’s inevitable that they’ll get suckered into it.


30 posted on 08/10/2016 5:52:34 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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To: Mouton

There are European countries that will buy US or Norwegian LNG at higer price just to keep the terminals alive. It does make sense as the minute that Russia is the sole supplier it increases the price.

I am on my phone and can’t make links, but if you look it up you’ll see that once Lithuania (or maybe Latvia) built a LNG terminal then suddenly Russia decided it is a good idea to offer them cheaper price.


31 posted on 08/10/2016 6:00:47 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: amorphous

Chain of events:

Russia and Turkey have an agreement to supply (put a strangle hold on) the EU with a natural gas pipeline.

Turkish airforce shoots dowm a Russian plane. ISIS rebels (US backed) capture and kills pilot. This strains relations and the pipeline deal is called off.

Turkey gets attacked by ISIS (US backed??) at Ankara airport.

Turkey the has a coup attempt but it is thwarted. Reports of Turkish airforce participation. Incirlik AB isolated, Commander is arrested.

Turkey claims coup is US/CIA backed and reports Russia provided them Intel prior to coup attempt.

Turkey and Russia announce normalization of relations.


32 posted on 08/10/2016 6:25:37 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Correct. But there is an important tidbit : not only the coup is blamed on Gulen and US but there are now statements from the Erdogan camp that the people responsible for downing of the Russian plane were gulenists, coup participants and controlled by the US and the Saudis.

Likely BS, but clears the record.

33 posted on 08/10/2016 6:31:57 AM PDT by mvonfr
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Might not be BS. Russia knew about the use of chemical weapons in Syria. They knew the US was going to use it as a “false flag” event to use it as an excuse to invade. They went to the UN ahead of the incident.

Russia knew about our dealings in Benghazi and warned the US to knock it off or there would be consequences. They also went to the UN to have the operation shut down. Which the US ignored.

Maybe this coup attempt has been in the works for some time.

Maybe we had a Department of State that had zero OPSEC or COMSEC accountability for decades?

Maybe we had a Secretary of State who has SAP programs on aserver in her bathroom closet.


34 posted on 08/10/2016 6:57:52 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Syria is a necessary stepping stone to Iran.

Perhaps, but then why is obama seeking rapprochement with Iran, even to the point of illegally giving them $400 million in cash?? Despite their continued taunts and threats, he seems to be doing his best to suck up to to the Mullahs in Teheran.

35 posted on 08/10/2016 7:08:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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What you say is correct.

What I meant by BS is specifically this: Erdogan is trying to interpret the Su downing episode as an operation done behind his back by the plotters/Gulenists/US/Saudis.

In reality he clearly went ahead with it, just changed his mind later -- in part due to the Russian economic countermeasures -- and now is trying to clean the record. -----

On an aside, Erdogan -- unlike Putin -- is a tactician. He always does what he thinks is the best thing to do today, he never thinks what may happen tomorrow.

36 posted on 08/10/2016 7:11:53 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr

Looks like he is using both sides against the middle.


37 posted on 08/10/2016 8:42:40 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers
He tries.

But the impression I'm getting is of a small-time crook trying to play poker with big Mafia guys. We know how this usually ends.

38 posted on 08/10/2016 9:18:39 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: PGR88

Presidents Obama’s agenda is not the same as the CIAs or deep state. If anything they seem to be working against each other, as in Syria.


39 posted on 08/10/2016 10:07:12 AM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: amorphous

The world just got a little more complicated. I guess Russia is happy that Turkey’s refugee exports are going to other way.


40 posted on 08/10/2016 1:47:40 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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