Posted on 08/12/2016 7:30:52 PM PDT by detective
Donald Trumps declaration this week at a campaign rally that President Obama and Hillary Clinton founded ISIS drew outrage from establishment media, and the Republican nominee now insists he was being sarcastic, but a Defense Intelligence Agency document declassified last year shows the Obama administration was warned in 2012 that if it continued its policies, a radical Islamic regime could form in Eastern Syria.
Writing in Chronicles magazine, Jim Jatras, a former U.S. diplomat and foreign policy adviser to the Senate GOP leadership, cited a DIA report in August 2012 that was declassified and released last year under a Freedom of Information Act request from Judicial Watch.
Hillary Clinton was secretary of state at the time under President Obama.
The report said there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in Eastern Syria, and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Several years ago, I was getting some push-back for saying this very thing. I blamed it on McCain and Obama.
They armed and funded them.
Hell, al Qaeda units were signing up with their weapons we provided. Didn’t take a brain-trust to figure this one out.
1. Obama withdrew from Iraq in a very idiotic manor.
2. He sent in arms and funding.
3. He feigned innocence when ISIS sprang on the scene overnight.
Even being sarcastic, Trump is right again. Simply amazing.
Hillary is their Grandmother. Obama is their J.V. Coach.
USA: Did Obama just admit to training ISIS!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNha3nabZeI
IN HIS OWN WORDS...
Bump
I recall similar and cannot find that citation at this time.
Good memory FRiend!
RE: “I seem to recall seeing an article posted here at FR that indicated ISIS was masterminded and formed by one of the former Iraqi top military men who were kicked out after the Bush conquest. So I would not be surprised if some of the organizers of ISIS were ex Iraqi top military brass. Then the issue was compounded when Bushes people disbanded the entire Iraq army, thus providing a corp of troops for the disgruntled leaders. This is not to say that the Dems didnt make some serious mistakes too.”
FRiend, thank you for the additional details and relating your experience living in the middle east, BO (before Obola).
I understand your putting a finer point on the degree of responsibility Obama, Hillary and McCain have for the rise of ISIS.
You infer it may be too hyperbolic to claim ISIS was founded or created by Obama’s deliberate effort to fund Al-Queda, a declared enemy of America and other nations.
Mid-wife may be more accurate in that describes one who delivers a child versus conceives the child.
I think that’s too generous and kind a dilution of blame.
Simplify the matter in order that disastrous deadly policy issue gets traction against the democrats.
1. Obama and Hillary have repeatedly demonstrated supporting the more radical anti-human rights Islamic forces in each country they’ve f*cked around in, ie: Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), Libya and Syria (Al-Queda) in order to affect regime change.
2. Obama and Hillary PAID and DIRECTED radical anti-human rights Islamic forces in Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), Libya and Syria (Al-Queda) to wage a bloody revolution against regimes in power, resulting in the violent deaths of THOUSANDS of civilians, and displace MILLIONS from their homes.
3. If Obola, HRC, McCain and neo-cons had not F*ucked around, soliciting, paying and directing Al-Queda, a declared radical islamic enemy of the USA for violent intercourse in Libya and Syria, ISIS would have never been born.
It is accurate and more effective to state, ISIS IS THE SPAWN of Obama and Hillary’s deliberate campaign to instigate revolution in Libya and Syria.
They planned, funded and directed a declared enemy of the USA, to wage war against the government’s of Libya and Syria.
The result was ISIS being born, MILLIONS being displaced and THOUSANDS of people being raped, tortured, beheaded, thrown from buildings and burned alive, to this very day.
The Middle east, Europe and the world is on fire, thanks to Obola’s love child, ISIS.
That oughta be shouted 24 x 7.
Best FReegards to you and yours
RE: “Obama and Hillary did not create ISIS. It was a splinter group of Al Qaeda even more radical than Al Qaeda. They gave it sustenance and arms in their insane attempt to dispose an evil SOB that poised us no threat, Assad of Syria.
The Mid East is on Fire because of their decisions along with the idiot John McCain. They also destroyed our ally in Egypt and installed the Muslim Brotherhood of Morsi in power. Thankfully the Egyptian people and their military disposed Morsi. If they had not by now we would have regional warfare between nations in the Middle East.
They did not create ISIS but they were midwife to its birth, and suckled the infant into the Monster it is today.
Obama, Hillary, McCain etc. have the blood of thousands on their hands. It is that simple.
Democracy is incompatible with the Muslim religion. The religion does not accept the authority of The State. Thus the only legitimate authority is that of the theocracy. Do not try to install democracy in a Muslim nation, you will fail. The result is far worse than a friendly despot.
I lived and worked in the Middle East for several years. The majority of the people are good. They just want a job, a home and provide for their families. They are totally scared out of their wits by the radicals. Nor do they understand democracy. They are quite happy with a benevolent autocrat. They are also damn good businessmen. They drive a hard bargain but will deliver on their agreements.
It was not bad living and working there. However it was before the present strife. I would not go back and work there again in the present situations.”
‘Zero and the Butcheress of Benghazi built that !’ — fieldmarshaldj
[As usual: Turn against Trump and you end up in the dump.]
As I understand it, most of the brains in ISIS were released from Club Gitmo. Even when GW released a few, it was due to pressure from leftist groups.
If we had been hard-ball with terrorists we caught, ISIS would have started with less effective leadership and been a roach motel for terrorists — taking the bait, they would have been easily killed off.
Do you recall that the initial brain power of ISIS was prisoners we released from Club Gitmo?
General Petraus had bought off the key anti-US warlords in Iraq. That was part of his surge strategy. In the long run, it proved to be the right policy. The war lords became mercenaries for the US.
I never would have approved of the Petraus plan myself, not understanding guerrilla warfare at the time. But it worked.
And guess who tipped over the Apple Cart?
there is a lot of great stuff here that answers lots of questions.
No, I don’t. To be honest, I haven’t focused on their activity post Gitmo. I have noticed from time to time that at least some of them have gone on to be very active. None the less, Obama keeps releasing them.
He’s simply an enemy of the United States. He is the terrorists friend more than ours. The guy had Muslim Brotherhood advisers inside the White House, openly.
If some of them were openly the leadership of ISIS, it wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Thank you for your time.
Check some of these articles out. LINK
Thank you DoughtyOne!
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June 14th, 2014 in a broadcast on Fox News
Fox’s Pirro: Obama set ISIS leader free in 2009
“The head of this band of savages is a man named Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, the new Osama Bin Laden,” Pirro said.
Leader of ISIS was in Obama’s hands according to at least one colonel.
Wikipedia:
“A number of newspapers and cable news channels have ... stated that al-Baghdadi was interned [by US military] from 2005 to 2009. These reports originate from an interview with the former commander of Camp Bucca, Colonel Kenneth King ... [snip]
[Wikipedia claims that the Obama administration refuses to confirm it.]
Never have those who seek to destroy us had no many allies in positions of power in America.
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