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Who owns the wind? We do, Wyoming says, and it's taxing those who use it
Los Angeles Times ^ | 14 August 2016 | William Yardley

Posted on 08/15/2016 10:32:33 AM PDT by Lorianne

ot long after it became clear that the robust winds that blow down from the Rocky Mountains and across the sea of sagebrush here could produce plenty of profit in a world that wants more renewable energy, some of the more expansive minds in the Wyoming Legislature began entertaining a lofty question:

Who owns all of that wind?

They concluded, quickly and conveniently, that Wyoming did.

Then, with great efficiency for a conservative state not traditionally tilted toward burdening the energy industry, they did something no other state has done, before or since: They taxed it.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: energy; taxandspend
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To: KC_Lion

41 posted on 08/15/2016 11:27:12 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Lorianne

Guess they modeled it after CO’s tax on rain since it falls from clouds over the state therefor they own it.


42 posted on 08/15/2016 11:29:42 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Lorianne

If they own the wind, let them prove it by turning it off.


43 posted on 08/15/2016 11:31:37 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Lorianne

Considering the source of the story, it is highly unlikely that they would understand Wyoming might have a distaste for wind farms much like libtards have for cigarettes and coal. If you can’t outlaw it you can tax the bastards out of business. How’s that for simple?


44 posted on 08/15/2016 11:35:10 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: tbpiper

That, is a good one.


45 posted on 08/15/2016 11:36:36 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: tbpiper

I would charge the government for easement rights, their wind crossing my property.


46 posted on 08/15/2016 11:38:43 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Lorianne

I guess if Oregon can own the rain, Wyoming can own the wind.


47 posted on 08/15/2016 11:39:07 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Lorianne; All

There are already states that make it illegal to collect rainwater off your roof -

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=illegal+to+collect+rain+water


48 posted on 08/15/2016 11:42:20 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: colorado tanker
Bogus story. Wyoming doesn’t tax the wind, it taxes the power generated by the turbines. This story was planted by a California company that wants to generate power in Wyoming and ship it to California, but doesn’t want to pay the tax.

It's only a matter of time before California treats the wind the same as water rights and asserts Wyoming is upstream from California and must let a certain portion of the wind pass thru to them tax-free.

But Wyoming can return the favor by claiming that since the prevailing winds in Wyoming are primarily west or southwest, that California is actually up stream from Wyoming. Touche

49 posted on 08/15/2016 11:43:03 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Lorianne

Years ago I recall reading a thread here about these modern windmills in the Netherlands. They started out there because they figured these folks are used to the idea and indeed, at first, they were well received. That is until the hydraulics in the transmissions started leaking and slinging 90 weight gear oil for hundreds of yards in every direction. Turns out “clean” non hydrocarbon energy is not as clean and non polluting as advertised. Imagine that.


50 posted on 08/15/2016 11:46:28 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Organic Panic
No one ever asks what happens when we take all that energy out of the moving air.

We are not taking all of the energy from the moving air. The amount of energy extracted from the wind is a miniscule and negligible amount of the total. Keep it in perspective. The atmosphere reaches thousands of feet high and wind blows in layers at many levels. Those puny windmills are not blocking much air movement!

51 posted on 08/15/2016 11:49:31 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: Lorianne

First I’ve heard of this, and I live here. On the side however, ya’ll are welcome to as much of the wind as you like! Bring you some giant trash sacks and come get you some! Take some of these gawd awful ugly wind turbines with you too.


52 posted on 08/15/2016 11:52:05 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Ancesthntr
By the way, do they also own the air you breathe?

Well, since you breathe out carbon dioxide and the Supreme Court has ruled that the EPA can regulate producers of carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas then you can be regulated as a pollution source point just by breathing. So the answer is yes.

53 posted on 08/15/2016 11:57:02 AM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: Auntie Dem

Hey, everybody knows California doesn’t blow, it sucks.


54 posted on 08/15/2016 11:59:25 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Lorianne

That wind you claim Wyoming, was mine 3 years ago. I wants my cut.


55 posted on 08/15/2016 12:14:36 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Gaffer

Good point.
Are they taxing the wind?
Or are they mitigating the improper redistribution of wealth from WY residents to those leveraging/abusing a tax credit via federal abuse?


56 posted on 08/15/2016 12:20:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: TexasRepublic

“We are not taking all of the energy from the moving air. The amount of energy extracted from the wind is a miniscule and negligible amount of the total. Keep it in perspective. The atmosphere reaches thousands of feet high and wind blows in layers at many levels. Those puny windmills are not blocking much air movement!”

But your wind turbines are cutting air flow to my wind turbines, which are downstream. I demand compensation.

Also, your turbines are killing the migratory birds before my turbines even get a chance to.


57 posted on 08/15/2016 12:28:52 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Lorianne

The surrounding states should fine Wyoming for wind that trespasses into their borders.


58 posted on 08/15/2016 12:49:10 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Lorianne

WYOMING CAN’T TAX THE AIR. CHRIST OWNS THE AIR.

COLOSSIANS 1:15-17
15
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
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for through him God created everything
in the heavenly realms and on earth.
He made the things we can see
and the things we can’t see—
such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.
Everything was created through him and for him.
17
He existed before anything else,
and he holds all creation together.


59 posted on 08/15/2016 1:02:05 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Talisker

No, a parasite.


60 posted on 08/15/2016 1:06:35 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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