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Judge Does Not Accept Guilty Plea From Oklahoma Man Accused of Beheading Co-Worker
KFOR ^ | AUGUST 17, 2016 | DALLAS FRANKLIN AND LORNE FULTONBERG

Posted on 08/18/2016 2:16:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: AnAmericanMother

I agree. Also, if the judge accepts the guilty plea, and he later claims coercion it’s back to square one. He certainly can’t claim coercion on a not-guilty. The judge seems to be buying insurance on the eventual verdict by outmaneuvering his counsel.


21 posted on 08/18/2016 3:08:23 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: nickcarraway

“”They’re entitled to justice,” Walkley said of the victims and their families””

Victims?? Who are the others?


22 posted on 08/18/2016 3:43:45 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: bigdaddy45

Actually, I see her point. If she accepts the guilty plea and the perp is later found to be mentally incompetent, his conviction gets overturned, and he is back out on the streets. Better to be safe than sorry.


23 posted on 08/18/2016 3:50:06 PM PDT by Catsrus (Don't let Hillary, the crook, off the hook.)
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To: nickcarraway

The Powers-That-Be want Nolen found insane. If he pleads guilty and is sentence, then it makes Islam look a little less “peaceful”


24 posted on 08/18/2016 3:50:50 PM PDT by montag813
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To: tet68

Seriously, what makes you think they took his voting rights away?


25 posted on 08/18/2016 3:52:45 PM PDT by tioga
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To: nickcarraway

Turn the bastard loose and let him kill some else. Sooner or later someone will put a bullet in his sorry ass. The Courts are all for the criminal today. No one gives a damn about the innocent victim.


26 posted on 08/18/2016 3:54:57 PM PDT by sport
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To: Dapper 26

They should have done that the first time.


27 posted on 08/18/2016 3:56:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: MHT

She did the right thing.

Put the MF before a jury of his peers so they, citizens of Oklahoma, can sentence his butt to death after a fair trial.


28 posted on 08/18/2016 4:02:06 PM PDT by OKSooner (Please clap.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Does she want to keep having this Islamic murderer psychologically evaluated until he is diagnosed the way she wants him to be diagnosed? This is justice?

She wants to dot every I and cross every T, in order to reduce any grounds for endless appeals.

He will be convicted.

29 posted on 08/18/2016 4:02:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Perhaps she was referring to the witnesses of the crime.


30 posted on 08/18/2016 4:03:48 PM PDT by OKSooner (Please clap.)
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To: OKSooner

“”Perhaps she was referring to the witnesses of the crime.””

Perhaps but I would hope a judge would be more capable of expressing that sentiment instead of calling witnesses “victims”....Who the heck knows today what anyone means about anything? We’d be better off not even questioning the crazy things we see and hear. I know I would.


31 posted on 08/18/2016 4:34:59 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

She should be forced to host the poor dear in her home while he waits for his assessment. Same with parole boards. The heck with halfway houses. If parole board members vote to release them surely the released criminal would pose no threat. Better to have the judges and parole board members test that theory before the public is endangered.


32 posted on 08/18/2016 5:29:55 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: Paladin2

And by a woman, so he doesn’t get his virgins.


33 posted on 08/18/2016 5:38:05 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (At least Richard Nixon had the decency to resign when caught in wrong doing.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; AnAmericanMother; Little Ray

Thanks. I was hoping that someone with legal knowledge would weigh in.


34 posted on 08/18/2016 5:45:38 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yes. Dot every “I” and cross every “T”.


35 posted on 08/18/2016 6:22:25 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: MHT

The deity of the appellate court....
No sense having a trial that had a high certainty of being overturned....
Proceed carefully to ensure not only a fair trial, but one that is appeal proof...


36 posted on 08/18/2016 6:48:17 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: AnAmericanMother
Competency? He was certainly competent enough to ask his victim if she was going to convert to Islam and when she said no, he did that which Islam commands---killed her with a sword. His victim was a Christian martyr and died for the faith. She was stronger in her conviction than St. Peter was on the night of the Cruxifiction.

Sure hope the Judge was right and he gets his...for murder and NOT "workplace violence."

37 posted on 08/18/2016 8:26:04 PM PDT by MHT (,`)
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To: MHT

This seems like a sharp judge. It is also better to do this on the front end rather than on a remand from an appellate court.


38 posted on 08/25/2016 11:11:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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