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Obama Structured Payments to Iran to Avoid 2008 Law (Vanity)
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Posted on 08/24/2016 9:22:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

Bttt


21 posted on 08/24/2016 9:52:46 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: TigerClaws

Simply illegal. If I tried to do this....how quick would I be drawn into some jail confrontation?


22 posted on 08/24/2016 9:56:00 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigerClaws

Impeach and remove.

They sic the irs on peopl for doing this sh1t with legally earned bank deposits.


23 posted on 08/24/2016 9:56:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Post is on it:

http://nypost.com/2016/08/24/covering-up-the-1-3-billion-payoff-to-iran/

No mention of the law it circumvented yet.


24 posted on 08/24/2016 9:58:57 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Dennis Hastert was unavailable for comment.


25 posted on 08/24/2016 9:59:02 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: TigerClaws

Not only that, but in July 2009 Iran’s claim was thrown out by the tribunal. There was no claim!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/obama-lied-us-had-no-liability-with-iran-money-paid-for-hostages-was-ransom/


26 posted on 08/24/2016 9:59:49 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: TigerClaws

They cant ignore it occurred. They will not also refer to any law that makes it appear obama did something illegal.


27 posted on 08/24/2016 10:01:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

The Post article mentioned this article on the 13 payments:

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/riddle-of-13-billion-for-iran-might-be-solved-by/89692/


28 posted on 08/24/2016 10:05:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nixon, “It’s not illegal if the president does it.”


29 posted on 08/24/2016 10:06:00 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Like any of us care what nixon has to say about doing illegal things while president....


30 posted on 08/24/2016 10:16:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

I think the claimed $100,000,000 limit on payments from the Judgment Fund is incorrect. That figure seems to come from payments made pursuant to the Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008, Pub. L. No. 110-246, § 14012(b) https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-110publ234/pdf/PLAW-110publ234.pdf not from limitations on payments made from the Judgement Fund.


31 posted on 08/24/2016 10:18:56 PM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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To: TigerClaws

Just where is lyin’ RYAN?


32 posted on 08/24/2016 10:46:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: TigerClaws

If we cannot confirm that none of the 400K went to terrorism, how in Sam Hill can we confirm that any other payments aren’t going to terrorism? (or, development of nuclear warheads). I don’t buy this, oh the World Court would have made us pay more (or anything), story that Zero spins


33 posted on 08/24/2016 11:15:02 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: Ray76

I agree. The $100 million cap on settlements seems to relate only to the Pigford litigation (remember that?) and is not a generalized limitation on payments out of the Judgment Fund.


34 posted on 08/24/2016 11:56:25 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Piranha
The Judgment Fund is 31 USC § 1304 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/1304)

The payments in question cite 28 USC § 2414, which is authorized by the Judgement Fund law

31 USC § 1304
  (a) Necessary amounts are appropriated to pay final judgments, awards, compromise settlements, 
      and interest and costs specified in the judgments or otherwise authorized by law when—
      (1) payment is not otherwise provided for;
      (2) payment is certified by the Secretary of the Treasury; and
      (3) the judgment, award, or settlement is payable—
          (A) under section 2414, 2517, 2672, or 2677 of title 28;
There's no mention of any cap on payments made from the Judgment Fund

Still, why wasn't the entire amount paid in a single payment? Why were the payments kept a penny below $100,000,000?

35 posted on 08/25/2016 12:27:43 AM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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To: TigerClaws

Hussein is too smart by half; a smartass.


36 posted on 08/25/2016 1:17:38 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Ray76

And since there was no “judgement” why was the money dispersed through the “judgement fund?”


37 posted on 08/25/2016 1:59:18 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Ray76

Someone will find a reason. I see no legal obstacles to a lump-sum payment although I haven’t researched the issue. Maybe they wanted it separated into multiple payments in case something went wrong with a wire transfer so big. Maybe they sent it through other countries that have limitations on transfer.


38 posted on 08/25/2016 2:05:56 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Mollypitcher1

The payments cite 28 U.S. Code § 2414 for authorization

28 U.S. Code § 2414 - in part: “Payment of final judgments rendered by a State or foreign court or tribunal against the United States, or against its agencies or officials upon obligations or liabilities of the United States, shall be made on settlements by the Secretary of the Treasury after certification by the Attorney General that it is in the interest of the United States to pay the same.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/2414


39 posted on 08/25/2016 2:22:48 AM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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I don’t think it was in the interest of the United States to pay same. And where was there a final judgement? The entire thing is a mockery and Obama should be held accountable ddown to the last penny in his pocket.


40 posted on 08/25/2016 2:30:31 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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