[Pietro]

"And then they are blamed because, remnant that they are, they could not accomplish more than they have accomplished in building the most free society on earth, against all odds and with absolutely no help from the majority."

As a Christian I would say it is forever thus.

[papertyger]

As a Christian I would say it is forever thus.

Which is why the Lord gave us Lk 16:8. Nevertheless, I don't think "losing" is what He was advocating.